1- 2S38 would keep scouting with a lower spawn cost separate from all tanks.
2- OTOMATIC is not an auto-light, thus comparing it to them is incorrect.
3- Leclerc is single feed, and can hold many different types of rounds. Leclerc and 2S38 share a similar conveyor system.
6- Which is irrelevant since 2S38 is 10.X and not 9.3 where its SPAA capabilities are from.
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The ADATS is, yes, classified as an SPG.
It shouldn’t be, much in the same way the 2S38 shouldn’t be. Yes it would inadvertently be a buff, but regardless, neither were designed explicitly to destroy tanks, and in game are supposed to or at the very least can serve very well in the SPAAG role.
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Officially, according to the GRAU_ 2S38(self-propelled artillery systems)/1K150 indexes, this is a Floating combat vehicle/Anti-aircraft Artillery complex…
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lol Why should the 2S38 be buffed?
2S38 is still a BMP3 chassis with a different gun. It’s a multi-purpose light tank.
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I might be tripping here but iirc there was enough of them that some games were running mixed MM. And they hadn’t fiddled with SRAAM (it was better than it is now imo)
And of course, back then, pre adjustment of flares, not everyone around 9.3/9.7 had flares so uh
The 2s38 was even more busted when it was first added, everything from the turret ring and down to the pizza shaped ammorack was empty space, that angled up ammorack? didn’t exist so you just shot empty space and got clapped back by 15 APFSDS shells. I personally suck playing it due to not being able to adapt my playstyle to it but 10.3 seems like a fair BR raise for it
@Mohicko
HSTVL is superior to 2S38 in every way.
To claim 2S38 is anywhere to the capabilities of HSTVL is pure Russian propaganda.
In-fact, the fact you want all non-Russians banned from discussions proves my point.
Your performance in your HSTVL is identical to your IFVs.
Sadly you only play one tech tree, and it’s the one you’re slandering vehicles of.
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Yep, people shouldn’t be talking about vechicles they haven’t played for themself.
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No it’s not. The Leclerc autoloader can store up to 6 different types of shells. Here’s a diagram of part of the commander’s control panel, look under “CHARGEMENT AUTOMATIQUE”:
6 different buttons for 6 different shells that can be selected to be loaded. Then the “DOUBLEMENT” button is to tell the autoloader to reload the same type of shell again.
I’ve never seen someone spout so much made-up BS.
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This is an asinine thought process for a game where there are hundreds of vehicles. Players are smart enough to understand vehicle performance between various vehicles. There is no fundamental mechanic behind the 2S38, it’s an IFV with a high penetrating APFSDS round (relatively speaking) that is automatic. You can claim someone who is playing Rank III vehicles doesn’t understand but saying people must play specifically the 2S38 to talk about it is inane.
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So, you mean that when the ka-50 was introduced the massive backlash that players had because of its starting BR was unjustified because they hadn’t played with it?
This poorly implemented thing with the name of 2s38 serves just one thing, to boost Russian bias that developers like so much at the expense of a balanced gameplay
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In most cases yes.
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This is unserious and you know it.
Sorry but in order to know how things really are You need to know both sides.
I played against Ka-50 when it was introduced and played with it, that is how I knew that it is unbalanced and I could point out why and what needs to be changed.
If You only play against certain vechicle, You don’t see properly on what makes it OP.
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Are you so incapable of critical thought?
It is not about critical thinking but understanding how things truely are.
If the discussions were between people who use said vechicle and play against it, there wouldn’t be a problem with people who are just bad at the game.
One can’t say that ‘x’ is OP when he is bad with it.
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That’s what I mean. The 2S38 truly is an IFV with a relatively high penetrating APFSDS round. It has no unique features which can not be found on other vehicles. What makes hand on experience necessary?
Hands on experience lets You understand the place vechicle is right now and how changing its B.R. is going to affect it.
2S38 is in russian tech tree, meaning that You will fight variety of vechicle from different nations in +/- 1 B.R. spread which will help You to understand if such vechicle can be eaisly destroyed or not and how it features can be used on different maps.
For me, as person who played 2S38 and against it, I prefer other nations vechicles and don’t see a problem with 2S38 being at 10.0.
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Do you believe the developers play vehicles in live games before adjusting BR?
Of course not, that is why we have so many problems in game at the moment.
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