Yes, 2S38 and Strf 9040C are easy to one tap, even autocannons kill them.
IRT and proxy fuse doesn’t impact BR.
In the context of an IFV, it does. It is a useful advantage, and affects the tank’s overall performance, which affects its BR slightly. Tracking and proxy shells allow it to very easily kill any helis that get close, and allow for it to kill inattentive planes.
If you say, “it has the AA capabilities of a 9.X SPAA,” I will say that that is better than nearly no AA capabilities to begin with.
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I’d say more like BR 11.3 idk why
Another BR update where the 2S38 still hasnt been touched.
the fucking thing is broke at 10.0.
Gaijin was quick to move the Harrier GR1 when it dominated, but the 2S38?
Milking that cashcow.
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Well isn’t that embarrassing
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It’s not dominating though.
Good players have an identical KDR in it as their Strf 9040C.
And both allegedly have KDRs around 1:1.
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Agree, there’s a difference between making fun of someone for being average or bad and another to use their stats on one vehicle and compare it to another to extrapolate information
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Looks pretty small of a breech to me!
At least it’s not a god damn trailer… Nice comparison
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For one thing, that is not the Zak-57 I’m referring to, has a different muzzlebreak, different barrel shroud, and ultimately even if the breech was that small, the assembly, traversal system, and autoloader that it has in the 2S38 would take up most of the turret space, and thus would not be that tiny.
Look what nation harrier GR1 in now look again at 2S38 if GR1 was in USSR tree i’m sure they will just let it sit where it is
Not dominating but it does have a few features that do drastically improve it’s performance around the board, regardless of player skill or stats
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Well this these features/details are just russian bias.
- classfied as light vehicle instead of SPAA.
- same reload speed as 40mm systems
- no drawback from single-feed system
- lowest repair cost
- HE-VT instead of HE-TF
- underrated
1- Which is why it’s 10.0 instead of 9.3 without APFSDS.
2- Which is realistic.
3- What?
4- Premiums in general have lower repair costs.
5- Which doesn’t matter since it’s 10.0 instead of 9.3.
6- By 0.3, yes.
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And what I posted was a 2A90
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I wouldn’t exactly call a 48% winrate with a 1.1 K/D and 1.2 K/M ratio ‘‘Dominating’’.
Gaijin cares about statistics, and the statistics for the 2S38 are dreadfully poor. I haven’t looked up the stats for the Harrier GR1 but I suspect they were significantly better.
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- Nice you don´t understand the issue at all. Even Gajin states that the 2S38 is a “attempt to transform the platform into a self-propelled anti-aircraft gun” but classify the vehicle as a Light one. It`s the very same bullshit classifying a Wiesel 1A4 as SPAA.
- I must be more specific, the reload speed for the ready rack is in comparision to the 40mm system identical. Usually if the shell is bigger the reload speed for the ready rack is higher.
2S38 is a exception of that “rule”. Otomatic got 4 times longer reload for having a shelld twice the size. - The 2s38 should not be able to switch shells as quickly as a 2-belt-feed-system. Such a system could have the desired shell in the second belt ready for loading. A single-belt-system should have a bigger reload time, if you choose a different shell.
- You`re right.
- It does matter very well since PUMA has a similar HE-TF shell as well. 2S38 gets HE-VT instead, PUMA does not, so just plain russian bias.
- By Br0.7 too low… Lvkv should be Br. 10.3 - 2S38 Br10.7 - Otomatic Br11.3.
If the Otomatic overrated and should drop down to Br 10.7. But in the current stat the 2S38 is better than Lvkv and worse than Otomatic.
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1- So why do you want to buff the 2S38 by labeling it a SPAA?
2- 2S38 isn’t anywhere close to an exception to the rule.
3- Leclerc says hi. It’s not unique.
5- Irrelevant since HEVT is 9.3 round.
6- The only reason why 2S38 would be 10.7 is if HSTVL goes to 11.7, Strf 9040C goes to 10.3, VCC-80/60 to 10.0, and Begleit to 9.7 in order for fairness.
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…Other than the multitude of arguments made.
Arguably an 8.0 round since the WZ305 has the exact same proxy shell.
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The VCC-80/60 is abysmal even at 9.0 xD