thanks for agreeing with me
The issue becomes when a 2S38 can engage 3+ MBTs in a short period of time effectively frontally without struggling to finish off a target. Imagine a Bradley at 3.0 being able to penetrate any tank it comes against frontally with its auto cannon. Yes the other tanks could penetrate its light armor but that doesn’t mean it would be balanced after being placed there.
mind telling me where i can get that 2S38? because so far my only successful engagement with MBT usually from either ambush or distracted MBT.
Mind sharing where i can buy 2S38 that can exchange fire with 3 MBT and survive without losing a men or two or even an equipment
otherwise what you are saying are just strawman tale
you could ask other 2S38 owner or even famous youtuber themselves has they ever not struggle going head on against an MBT in 2S38 like you stated
nope and no, any mbt can stop 2s38 225mm apfs
if you cant that is your skill issue simple as that
Are you suggesting I angle an MBT to resist the shots? Do you not understand why that doesn’t work?
what angling? this is not tiger tank. i always find hard time penetrating leopard 2A4 im not sure how it is hard for you to understand that almost any mbt can block it shot if you wiggle your hill around instead of sitting taking shots and blaming everything on bias.
you do know how 2s38 performance now compared to 2023 right? just shoot its turret you will disable not only its gun but its autoloader, fcs and even lws
what is this mbt that seemingly very vulnerable to 2s38 you are talking about? i may able to tell you what to do to avoid getting penetrated by 225mm apfs
what angling? this is not tiger tank. i always find hard time penetrating leopard 2A4 im not sure how it is hard for you to understand that almost any mbt can block it shot if you wiggle your hill around instead of sitting taking shots and blaming everything on bias.
I’m sorry you find it difficult to play the 2S38. I am sure with further practice you will find how effective it can be.
I’m sorry you find it difficult to play the 2S38. I am sure with further practice you will find how effective it can be.
Right. And, of course, Vamilad will show us how effective 2S38 can be. Oh, wait, you don’t have one…
so where is that 2s38 that can take 3 mbt shot and survive? you still havent show us where we can buy that vehicle yet, otherwise all of this fiasco was just a straw man argument
he is very adamant on 2S38 soviet biased poor me, yet still hasnt provided a link nor replay of a 2S38 survived in confrontation between 3 mbt,
wasnt his argument before this was about how 2s38 able to survive turret shot?
now 2S38 getting fcs and electronic he had to find new excuse to cry about
in his head this 2S38 might be firing 200mm laser gun with -20 degree of gun depression and fully automated with robot so no crew can be killed and since laser doesnt contains gunpowder that was also his source claiming its shell cant be detonated
still perplexed on where is this super elite immortal 2S38 available at and how much is it
“how can you understand a vehicle with no unique characteristics to it without owning it?”
Possibly because I have played War Thunder.
I accept that you have a personal interest in the 2S38 remaining in its current state so rather than wasting more of either of our time I will ignore further messages from you.
Not gonna lie, it’s very funny seeing you say you have a hard time penetrating a 2A4 while using the words “skill issue”. It’s also hilarious to see you defending the 2S38 because you own it but complain about the Vidar of all things. Not to mention the fact that you have never been on the receiving end of the 2S38
I had already in fact been on the recieving end of 2s38, in a leopard pl and what i can tell you aside from broken gun and gunner optic my crew and internal is safe.
He’s almost exclusively criticized the 2S38.
2A4 is extremely resistant to 2S38, that fact remains no matter your opinions.
I thought leopard 2pl was leopard 2a4 with some armour screen on turret and carries slightly better ammo but at a whole br above
It’s a 2A4 with external armor, better thermals, and round.
I remember leopard pl has worse tvd than leopard 2a4m i guess leopard pl had gen 2 thermal, 2a4m gen 3
I read the latest posts and I don’t see much criticism, mostly just defending and saying it’s weak, but please point me in the right direction.
I’m not disagreeing with the Leo 2A4 being resistant (can penetrate the gun breech but that usually won’t kill) I’m pointing out the fact that the guy says he’s having trouble playing the 2S38, then turning around saying other people have skill issues. It’s very ironic.
2 games, isn’t enough to make much of a judgement call. Not to mention, I somewhat doubt you ran across any in those two games alone, but I can’t prove either or so fair enough.
The vast majority of your games are not against the 2S38 and I would guess you haven’t had the pleasure of being uptiered against one in a 9.3 tank.
“I don’t see much criticism, just criticism saying 2S38 is weak.”
lol
Saying something is weak is always criticism.
Saying something is good is defending it.