2 cm Flakvierling 38 L/65 auf Flakpanzer IV Möbelwagen

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Cince the addition of the Flakpanzer IV Zerstörer 45 Test bed, which is based on the Flakpanzer IV Möbelwagen (Furniture Mover), i want also to suggest the 2x Normal variants, armed with 3,7 cm Flak 43 L/57 and 2 cm Flakvierling 38 L/65 respectively.
The Flakpanzer IV Möbelwagen could be a lower BR sidegrade to the Ostwind and Wirbelwind in game, showing the developmental history of the German armys Self propelled AA guns from Halftracks and Trucks to modified Tank platforms to fully enclosed and open top Flakpanzer which have rotating Turrets.

The Flakpanzer IV Möbelwagen was essencially a stopgap until the Wirbelwind and Ostwind were ready for production, these were modified Pz IV Hulls, where the Hull MG was removed, the angled front sides straigten outwars as well as fold down sidewalls which created a big working platform for the crew of 5 with the gun in the middle, beeing protected on the hull by 50mm and the turret only by the sidewalls and gunshield (so 8-2x 10 or later solid 20mm) while these were better than the Half tracks and Trucks, these were from march 1944 to July 1944 mere stopgaps until the Wirbelwind and Ostwind were ready with overall 240 vehicles constructed.

Pictures:(Click to show)




The Gun:
2 cm Flakvierling 38 L/65 (basically 4x Flak 38, controlled via 2x Pedals (top right, bottom left and the other way around) Fire rate 480 rpm (per gun) -10° to + 90° elevation, 360° traverse at 60°/sec

Ammo: (Click to show)

Pzgr. L`Spur. o.Zerl. (ApI-T) 0,148kg 830m/s 0g 40mm/10m


Pzgr. L'Spur zerl. (Aphe-T Sd) 0,148 kg 830m/s 2,4g Pent 37mm/10m


NOTE: It does NOT have a fuze, the filler is for self destruction, in game it would also explode upon impact when shattering, like the japanese 30mm Aphe.

Pzgr. 40 L`Spur. o.Zerl. (HVAP-T) 0,100kg 1050m/s 62g core 12mm 50mm/10m


Pzsprgr. L'Spur m.Zerl. (Aphe-T Sd) 0,121 kg 900m/s 3,6g Pent 33mm/10m

(This last picture is an adaption for the Mg151/20 and uses a different shorter tracer, which results in it beeing also a bit lighter)

Sprgr. L`Spur. o.Zerl. (Hefi-T) 0,120kg 900m/s 6,2g Pent (10,54g) 5mm/10m


Brsprgr. o.L'Spur. o.Zerl. (He-I) 0,120kg 900m/s 20g H.5 and Zink (7g H.5 13g Zink (calculated by Killakiwi))

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The Vehicle:
Panzer IV Chassis
Weight: 25 ton
Engine: HL 120 TRM 300/3000 PS
Speed: 39 Km/h
Front: 50-80mm
Side: 30mm
Back: 20mm

Panzer Tracks Flakpanzer
Munition der 2 cm Waffen

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I was honestly surprised that we got the prototype version instead of one of the normal variants so hell yes on this from me

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