15 cm s.I.G. 33 (Sfl.) auf Pz.38(t) Grille Ausf. H

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I would like to suggest the 15 cm s.I.G. 33 (Sfl.) auf Pz.38(t) Grille Ausf. H which would be the key piece between the thinn armored Pzsfl. II 15 cm s.I.G. and the armored StuIG 33 B.
It would add a fun mobile, small and derp gun vehicle to the game with great firepower and enove armor to withstand .50 cal and some greater from distance.

The Grille came in both Ausf. H (for hinten (back, engine at the back)) and Ausf. M (for mitte (engine in the middle)). I am suggesting the Ausf. H, which was the first development upon the Marder III chassis instead armed with a 15 cm s.I.G. 33. These guns were heavy infantry guns with shorter range but extreme firepower, which were somewhat difficult to traverse as their weight made them bug down in mud so they were placed on a multitude of different chassis starting with the Pz I. This chassis gave it greater mobility and some armor to withstand smaller enemy fire resulting in an effective infantry support gun and close in artilley.

After meeting on the 6th march 1942 the request was made to develop the s.I.G 33 on a Pz 38(t) chassis with development from march 1942 to Febuary 1943 and production of 210 vehicles from Juni 1943 and november 1943.

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The Gun:
15 cm s.I.G. 33 L/12
there were 4 rounds available, including the 30 cm Stielgranate 42, which unlike its smaller brother is a HE-FS round with big filler and was inteded as a Bunker buster shell as well as to clear minefields and reinforced structures, the other vehicles can also get it.

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I.Gr. 33 He 38 kg 8,6 kg Fp.02 and Np.10 (11 kg TnTa) 240 m/s

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I.Gr. 38 Hl/A HEAT 24,58 kg 4,16 kg H.5 (7,07 kg TnTa) 280 m/s 231mm/all

I.Gr. 38 Nb Smoke 38,46 kg 2,24 kg Smoke stuff 240 m/s

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And the 30 cm Stielgranate 42, which is a Overcaliber HE-FS for the 15 cm s.I.G.33 and guns of the same family.
Historically, it was a mix of life extention and mainly a demolition charge against heavily reinforced structures and bunkers from range, over the normal He rounds and the in development 15 cm Minengeschoss. Similar to its smaller 15 cm Stielgranate 41 brother, it however was just a HE-FS and not a HEAT-FS, as the main targets were different as well as duo to the sheer size it was simply not needed, if shot at tanks. So while also with more of a poor precition and a effective range of mere 300m, it could also be effectively used against heavy tanks as it has a 54 kg Amatol filling, far higher than the 8,6 kg of the normal I.Gr.33 and 38.

In game this new ammo round would further increase the Meme potential as well as destructive effect even against a group of armored tanks, as with the huge filler its even more powerfull than some plane bombs and would change in velocity, range and reload speed for sheer destructive potential. Maybe it should be limited stock (around 5 rounds) above the normal ammo load (and not replace any of the 18 rounds of the Pz.Sfl. II 15 cm) it could be added on the Sturmpanzer II and IV currently in game, but also more vehicles, with the 15 cm s.I.G.33 and guns of the family, that may come in the future to the game.

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The Ammo:(With Pics, click on the name to show)

30 cm HE-FS 90 kg, 54 kg Fp 50/50 (Amatol) 105m/s

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For all guns of the s.I.G family such as 33/1 Sfl., StIG 33 and StuH 43 L/12 (found on the StuIG 33B and Sturmpanzer IV)

Source:
Geschossringbuch II and II+
Die 30 cm Stielgranate 42 der 15 cm Geschütze
Sächsische Kampfmittelbeseitigung GmbH
Waffen Revue
Bundesarchiv
Manual of the Geschützwagen 38 Ausf. H
Munition der 15 cm s.I.G. 33

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Yes massive +1!, infact I spend 300$ HKD back in Hong Kong and bought a model of the Grille H