if map has dips up and down, large enough so you have to account for them in your flight path, then the map isnt flat, no?
well not neccesarily but possiblity of having almost 200 flares and 200 chaff at BR where most planes have 60x CMs total and most also lack IRCCM missiles is objective advantage.
I was just recently playing the j-10a and yes that thing pretty much is terrible at 13.7, the difference is the fact that radar missiles are a complete counter to the mirage. With 13.7 vehicles you either are very fast or can turn very well or have good weapons, so you can avoid the enemies. However you cant at 13.0 or 12.0. Every br above 7.7 to top tier for both air and ground are terrible right now but the SARH and AMRAAM jump is insanity.
yea but that is throughout all time, the mirage used to be amazing but the new premiums dominate them with ease. Also the mig23 is played more than the mirage which is a good factor as to why it has a lower kd. Noobs buy it more and do less with it.
I do not know why you think J10a is terrible. It’s very nimble for continuous counter-attacks.
Do you know how to properly notch radar missiles? If you cant do it on J10 properly then you cant do it on mirage.
You only played rank 7 and rank 8 often, so you cant feel what’s like when both of you and your enemies have guns, while you cant catch him cuz you are in a prop and he’s in a jet.
OR the time you see a AIM9L launched on your right and you have 0 flares against it.
Mirage F1C does get a lot of countermeasures, so you can defend youself, Much better than mirage CS4. But when you dont have these… good luck!
Oh btw I did once played mirageF1C to help me get to tier 8, so i dont make things up.
the j-10c is a ok vehicle but there is no point to notch because there is no point in going high, you’ll get destroyed by a f-14 or eurofighter because the pl-12 has terrible range.
funnily enough even the premium F1, ie. the one that should have worst stats due to being aviable to even new players, is doing better than US and GER premium hornets and its only slightly lagging behind the CAN one.
while yes, premium mirage is played less than premium mig23, premium mirage has only slightly less games than US premium hornet, and more than both german and UK premium hornets together.
Also, for the previous month, ie. august 2025, there were only slightly less games in premium mirage than in premium mig23
but i digress.
Mirage F1C200 isnt as hopeless as you make it out to be.
high number of new players playing the most played tech trees in game=lower k/ds. Look at the british one, its basically the same as the others but does better. Why? Because its a tech tree not a ton of new players play. On average a good player can get at least 2 or more kills every game in the f-18, even i have done that.
It’s one of the best 13.7s, and going high gives you a big advantage in a downtier. PL-12s have ok range, but as long as you aren’t facing 14.3 you can do BVR combat.
The Mirage problem are not the planes, it’s the bunch of unexperienced players. At 12.0 you have to fly most of the time with 8 ish F1C-200, 99% of the players have no clue what to do or do base bombing.
Magic 2 is an amazing missile, if played properly.
well OP talked about Mirage F1C-200 specifically, and nothing really changed for it, as the new Su30s are 13.3 and thus Mirage cant naturally meet them.
Whenever the new Su30s are or are not too low is another matter entirely and not related to the mirage at all.
