what are you on about
If whatever you are fighting is stupid enough to go low and slow. AV-8B will win, can even beat the top dogfighters if given half a chance (matrix has clips of him beating Typhoons). I’ve even come painfully close to winning a 1v3 vs Mig-29s in the GR7 and (mostly via maneuver kills) winning a 1v2 a Su-27 and a Mig-29 in a stock FA2 with the Su-27 respawning and then rejoining the fight for a second try, only to die again (the issue here though was that I couldnt escape. Everytime I won the fight, Id try to run and was immedaitely caught again)
(both fights in ASB)
But its 100% reliant on said opponent being that stupid.
FA2 is screwed at the moment, it doesnt hold that edge 95% of the time
FA2 has a worse engine, gen1 wings, no gun if you carry amraams
you know all this but its so bad
Like, the turn radius? Energy retention? All you have to do in a 1v1 vs a harrier is rate fight

I mean, yes of course, but if anyone plays bad enough it will die to anything(?
I dont think thats remotely true, idk who this Matrix is, but i dont think that whoever is facing him in the EF is playing well, anyone that does 1v1s with jets will tell you that the harrier is just not it
Not by much, same engine as the GR7
It’s 8-9% worse iirc
The solution is decompression. That is it. You’re over complicating it with this “soft locking” idea which would also make the worst fox-3 carriers only fight in up tiers.
He’s not played the game much lately so he can’t post but sent me.the link.
These are so inaccurate lol
Few things to remember VIFF isn’t modeled in game and the Harrier is missing 35% of its high speed thrust.
As far as I’m concerned War Thunder has never added a harrier.
99.9% of people who have tried to play it have 0 idea about how to employ it. They also have 0 idea about the level of performance it should have.
The Harrier 1 is missing significant portions of lift and turn performance but the not so bright sparks on the dev team say they simply do not believe the turn rate charts from the Gr.3 tactics manual.
Not to mention that their own source they used to “Not a Bug” my report actually confirmed that my report was correct. Long story short they didn’t even bother to read the document they cited.
I wont be surprised if this reply gets removed.

That Eurofighter/Su-27SM player has no idea how to dogfight
These are so accurate for the videogame we are in
I would be happy to test it, because watching at those videos neither the Su or the EF knows what to do vs a Harrier
I’m free today if you want to duel.
Thing about the harrier is its vulnerable in guns only fights. Missile armed harrier IRL however was a completely different monster. Some people in the Sea Harrier squadrons had a 20/1 K/D vs the likes of the F-15A. The royal navy average was 3 to 1 K/D
I will be free in like 30 mins
Use Kfir c10 keeping with the theme of this
Sounds good
Want to do 2X9L + guns and 2Xpython 3 + guns