So I’ll be upfront with this: I know this is top-tier gameplay and not as much of a problem in lower BRs because of how they work, but damn, I feel like I can’t even get out of heli spawn at the top BR brackets due to how prevalent the SPAA missile spam is.
Legit, I had one game where I was doing meh in my HSTV-L, died, and got into my helicopter thinking, “Oh yeah, at least I can be some support.” But nope. I spawned on the farther heli pad with the AH-64A (don’t judge, I’m still grinding the heli tree — it’s a real grind to move up even one heli, let alone the entire tree).
Anyway, right after spawning in, I immediately got locked by IRST and I’m not joking — I was under constant missile rain for like a full minute. And before anyone says “git gud,” I’d like to remind you that I hadn’t even taken off yet. I had to repair twice before the match even ended, and I couldn’t do anything.
The only time I can actually play air (helis or aircraft) is when I take something like the F-16C, simply because 12.0 is cursed by top-tier SPAA. I feel like there should be some balance — not that either side gets an unfair advantage in SPAA vs. Air in Ground RB. That’s just my opinion, but I really think it should be fair for both SPAA and Air.
yeah id simply recommend turning on research helicopters by ground vehicles and dont play helis until u unlock the apache E. and i would go grind it out first in heli PVE otherwise ur gonna hate it even more than that gamemode.
once u get it. youll be enjoying so much it will feel unfair… bcz it will be.
(LDIRCM)
the problem is still the same since Heli PVE is not fun due to the AH-64E for that grind and the research points you get feels down right terrible for the wait to gain ration sadly.
I’m sorry that I want to play my F-16A for some CAS once in a while, but the whole statement of “OP CAS vs OP SAMs” is simply wrong. I didn’t want to come here and complain, but after seeing it across several games, it’s clear that CAS doesn’t even get a fighting chance because of the constant missile spam — often from vehicles not even a full BR higher. CAS just gets shafted over and over.
I’m sorry that I want to actually enjoy CAS sometimes, but the mentality of “it balances out” is just wrong. It’s not a skill issue when one side can click a few times and delete several aircraft or helicopters. Hell, even the ADATS requires more actual skill than the Pantsir or the other top-BR SPAAs.
So no, I don’t agree that it “balances out.” Just decompress top tier and have Gaijin put more skill expression into SPAAs, in my opinion.
Every single 13.0 heli because those are the ones with F&F IR
12.0 helis are less of an issue because they require manual guidance but missiles like the vikhr still rock tanks.
Thats just not true for all of them
UHT with the pars that miss tanks or non pen
Or the HAD with spikes that dont do enough damage and take for ever to reach its target
And if there is a pantsir driving around i just know am probably dead
These heli aren’t a problem they’re just kinda ass to begin with
eah… at this point I just want to finish the tree so I can get the research bonus and move on. I’ve been eyeing either the Japan tree or the Swedish tree, but I really want that bonus first. It feels like a waste to abandon the U.S. tree this late, since I already have the HSTV-L and I’m working my way toward the Abrams.
But honestly? I’m feeling pretty jaded by the U.S. lineup right now.
I know… I really wish they had just made the HSTV-L count for the research bonus, because I’d be done by now. But nope — even though it’s 12.0 and effectively sits at the BR where you should get that bonus, it still doesn’t qualify.
At this point I’m honestly considering just grinding the SPAA to get the bonus and be done with it.