Hello, I am here just to simply state my issues I have came across with war thunder lately.
As show in in the title of this forum 12.0/13.7 is very unfair for these very reasons. Playing 12.0 is a constant upteir no matter what for example, ill play with the 12.7 FA/18C for Germany, and every match i have played was 13.3 or 13.7 very rarely i’ll get put into a 14.0 lobbie.
Th main issues why i see 12.0 13.3 being so unfair and unplayable is due to the fact you run into players using the notorious Su-30MK2 AMV That sits at a battle rating at 13.3. True they have 6 fox 3 missiles, but you have to keep in mind that every match you will get into they will spam it no matter what. Doesn’t matter if you notch or multi path you’ll end up falling victim to Fox 3s.
The new event Dutch F-16A, i just unlocked it last night. And its unplayable as it is currently stock as I cannot grind it due to the fact i run into more Su30s and F-14s constantly.
Over all the New Dutch F-16A is not worth it. Nor will it be worth a lot in the marketplace becuase of its issues it has (Lack of BVR. No Radar Missiles. Not a lot of chaffs or flairs)
The F-16A being at a BR level of 12.3 is not bad on paper if you look at that way, but keep in mind that every 12.0 lobbie is and will always be a constant upteir to 13.3 or 7 even on very rare cases you’ll get put into a 14.0 lobbie.
Not to mention, you needed to grind 45k score points to complete the daily task. Now over all in my honest and true opinion on the plane so far and the battle rating issues.
Is the plane worth it? No it is not.
Is there an issue with 12.0 & 13.7 Yes, a very major issue.
What can be done about it? Lower the BR of the Dutch F-16 to 12.0 or worst case 11.7. Or raise the Br level of the F14 to 14.0 & Su-30MK AMV to 14.0. Anything with Fox3s needs to be 14.0, if you really think about it.
Feel free to let me know what you guys think of this whole situation, if you feel as if i worded or said anything wrong please be sure to correct me on it. If you agree with me make sure to let me know, i’d love to hear what you guys have to say on this.
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Welcome to ARB at that br, its completely pointless issue to complain about as there are already so many threads about it.
Its a BR compression issue but most likely wont get touched anytime soon as Gaijin dont seem to care enough to decompress the br, just make the issue worse with moving the f15 down to 12.7.
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no, the solution to compression is not more compression.
The IRIAF with the Fakour 90s is the only F-14 that is somewhat of an issue, if you are being killed often by F-14s you need to adjust your strategy.
not with out expanding the max BR more, the premium SU-30s would be an average 13.7, if it goes higher than that other stuff needs to move up too (for the record I am in favor of this kind of decompression, I’m just not holding my breath for it).
I think a full BR increase is far to much for some of them, like the Sea Harrier FA 2, but all ARHs could go up 1 or 2 BR steps to take the pressure of the SARH planes.
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11.7 to 13.7 has all the elements to be enjoyable. However, Gaijin has left everything to be outright hell except for a handful of vehicles.
And it’s by design, not by apathy.
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13.7 is the best br in top tier air as it enjoys constant down tiers. Abuse it as long ad you can before decompression comes
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I completely understand your pov, but keep in mind its a double edge sword at the end of the right. Its fun to play as a 13.7 jet and just completely dominate in down tier, but on the other hand right, you are playing as something that’s 12.7 and you are compressed with 13.7 and you are struggling to deal with top tiers.
This is the sad truth behind it, like don’t get me wrong, 11.7 and 13.7 can be fun. But that’s on very rare cases and it shouldn’t have to be like that.
We told gaijin to decompress air but they keep su30 premiums at 13.3. Not our fault so I’m just saying everyone should abuse the system so more people will complain about the br problem in air
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Fam unless you play with friend in 13.0 plane at least, this cant happen in RB.
F/A-18C has good enough RWR for F-14 to not be a threat, theres no excuse to being shot down by it.
Responding to this message here. Yes the F/A-18C Does have good RWR, never said it wasn’t bad. Its simply harder to play and get 3-4 frags a game due to constant uptiers. Reason being you are forced to multi path due to fox 3s, yes the F-14 has some counters and you could get them in a dog fight. But by no means am I a crazy good player I’m average at most, so keep that in mind.
That is nothing to be ashamed of.
But at the same time, I gotta ask - what is your long term plan chief?
Surely you dont expect those F-14s to just give up, or for uptiers to stop.
Phoenixes are relatively low entry bar into ARH gameplay with their low G pull, they are incredibly easy to notch and so is the F-14 radar, if you struggle with defeating them, you will struggle with top tier ARHs.
I don’t really have a plan for AirRB i’m only stating my issues i’ve ran into while playing. I have Russia Maxed out for AirRB, so notching there is harder but still manageable. I simply think that is unfair that 12.0 is compressed with 13.7. Keep in mind i play 14.7 here and there and i get 3-4 frags a game, but again its easier becuase of fox 3s you can launch 35km away.
if you can notch at top tier, you can notch F-14.
i feel you have to elaborate since 12.0 cant see 13.7 in ARB.
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Yea right more like constant uptiers to aesa fighters
Option that few people know it exist, gambling for multipath is better
Rarely, like 1 in 5 games which is very good when 4 of those are downtiers. And even in 14.7 uptiers you can get a kill or two in 13.7 planes
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Mine was spaded the next day. (Yesterday)
The matches have issues, sure, but the plane is not that bad.
If you are on the other side, you run into different issues. Your matches end before you even reached something, cause the teams radar missiles vaporized the enemy team. If you are with the F-16A swarm, at least your match lasts until you die.
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