You’re alone cause nobody cares about you.
Half of the community already blocked you on this forum yet you’re still thinking people agrees with you.
They just ignore you thats all.
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he’s a big clown don’t waste your energy on him.
Nah im mostly ignoring him but sometimes i like to bite his bait and make fun of him.
Already started to ignore him again.
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IF 1: We could lock the ground beyond 20km…
And 1a: There was 20km range SPAA against subsonic jets [there currently isn’t]…
THEN KH-38 would be unique.
However, no SPAA exceeds 13km against supersonic jets, or 15km against subsonic jets [Pantsir].
And CAS range is 20km, 17 - 18km at mach 1.
Here’s a trash illustration of the tactic I use in matches that the Tornado even pulls off: 9 - 11km altitude.
Top tier hasn’t been enjoyable for a long time.
Unless you play Russia.
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The best agms DEFINITELY mean something when they’re so much faster and have more range than the competition. AGM 65s and the ones on the Tornado that I forgot the name of are considerably slower which gives a lot bigger of a window for counterplay (getting into cover, or firing your own missile at it.) You also don’t really need to climb with the KH 38s. You spawn in, do a U turn to gain a extra 5 km of distance where no spaa can touch you, and bam, you’re golden. If you really want altitude, you can do it during your U turn. These aren’t AGM 65s where you have to worry about altitude to get the most out of your range. The only consistent effective counterplay you can do against it is get in your own jet. I very much agree that cas in general is overpowered. But missiles like the KH 38 have no place in the game right now without stationary AA with the range to deal with it like the Patriot system. Pandora’s box has been opened again just like it was in air with all aspect IR missiles at 10.0. Don’t get me wrong, I understand what you’re saying about climbing up to use your AGMs outside of range of all SPAA. What I’m trying to tell you though is that you can completely cut out that stage of prep thanks to the sheer speed of the KH 38
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PGMs
KH-38 is no different to what we’ve had for years.
If we had better SPAA that was still below KH-38 alleged range, then that’d be a different story, but we don’t.
And we can’t test KH-38’s maximum range because we can’t lock the ground beyond 20km.
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Pantsir is not OP unless they make it like 12.7. just like the 2S38, just needs some BR increasing.
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Laughs in AGM 65 and PGM You fire the missile at the edge of the range of the Pantsir, make a U turn, and watch it be as helpless as the rest of the SPAA in game
You mean Sweden.
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Very convincing argument. Just ignore it being supersonic I guess. That’s like saying that the R27ER/T is no different from what we’ve had for years
Laughs in Pantsir cause you know you can shoot those slow missiles with your superior radar+missile gun combo.
Those AGM’s cant even get close to Kh38MT’s level.
My other posts in this thread have made my stance on the KH 38 pretty clear. But is that the fault of the Pantsir? Should it go up solely because the same nation has better AGMs over other nations? That’s a ridiculous argument. The trick is that you fire another missile afterwards. And then another. You’ll be able to bleed the Pantsir of missiles and rearm long before the Pantsir is able to do the same on most maps. If Gajiin was actually willing to raise the max ground br for all tanks and decompress, I’d be fine with the Pantsir going up. But we know that’s just a pipedream since they fight tooth and nail to prevent that from happening. (Decompression bad because uhhh… que times. Yeah, definitely that)
The effective range of all SPAA against jet CAS is 12km.
The effective range of all ten tech trees’ CAS loadouts is 20km+.
So until there’s a SPAA that can consistently hit supersonic targets out to 20km, then the KH-38 is more of the same OP nonsense.
Kh-38MT is going to be more OP nonsense.
Edit: As of October 2024, Pantsir’s effective range against jets was changed from 13km to 16km when its missile guidance got buffed in that major update.
İts Gaijin’s fault.
Pantsir shouldnt be added so early, right now combining with Ka-52,Pantsir and Su25SM3 Russia basically owns the skies.
And i can just fire my Kh-38 missiles outside of any Nato Spaa range, even if they do the same tactic i can just go back to rearm and do the same thing again.
Difference between Nato Spaa’s and Pantsir is that you never know when Pantsir is targeting you and most munitions requires you to get in Pantsir’s range.
Not to mention Pantsir can always use cover in order to protect itself from those munitions.
İncreasing Pantsir’s br will not remove its advantages against air vehicles.
Pantsir is the main problem.
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yes it is! you can fly a jet and on takeoff a team mate can intentionally ram you in an su25 then carry on flying no problem whilst you crash into the ground and get a crew lock!
What’s not to love!
Guarantee that guy got killed in first engagement also.
Top tier is full of the shittest players, sweaty players and utter shitbags.
pain
top 10 reasons pantsir should’ve never been added
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especially not fun in air rb when you takeoff and a friendly intentionally rams you in an su-25, makes you crash but carries on like it never happened and you get a crewlock.
All while flying a hunter at 9.7 with 10.7 jets.
Gotta love the mentality of high tier players who think they are elite because they have 1 or 2 high tier premiums, nothing else.