10,5 cm LeFH 18/40 L/28 auf Geschützwagen Lorrain Schlepper (f)

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I would like to suggest the 10,5 cm LeFH 18/40 L/28 auf Geschützwagen Lorrain Schlepper (f) which would be the next vehicle to the 15 cm s.F.H.13 L/17 auf Geschützwagen Lorrain Schlepper (f) It would be a trade off to more range, velocity and penetration and reload speed to pure power.

Along the other 10,5 cm LeFH L/28 vehicles this would be on the most beginning, duo to beeing small, thinly armored and slow while packing quite the punch, especially with Pzgr. Rot (Apcbc), F.H.Gr Fern and Gr.39 Hl/C.

History:
in 1942 24 were build, the designe is one of Baukommando Becker.
The 10,5 cm LeFH 18 L/28 was difficult to move around, either it needed a halftrack, otherwise it was pulled by 6 horses.
After the surrender of france however, lots of equipment including vehicles and tanks fell in german hands, these were often reused, modified and/or improved to fit a new need or simply be better if it was outdated. This includes the Lorrain 37L which in german hands was called Lorrain Schlepper(f), these were modified to have a crew compartment at the back and recived a multitude of armarments, as such 24 were build with a 10,5 cm LeFH 18/40 L/28, some Pak 40, 1x a 12,2 cm K. (r) and some the 15 cm s.F.H. 13 L/17.

Cince the vehicles were light and small, they couldnt really carry armor, as such they were kept thinn and open topped to be a artillery support.


Pictures:(Click to show)

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Gun:
10,5 cm LeFH 18/40 L/28
-5° to +42° Elevation, 60° Traverse
20 Rounds storage


Ammo:(Click to show)

Ap:


Pzgr. (Aphe) 14 kg 238g (304,64g aquivalent) filler 480 m/s 72mm/10m

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Pzgr. Rot (Apcbc) 15,56 kg 250g (357,5g) 461 m/s 82mm/10m

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Gr.39 Rot Hl/B (Heat (No Tracer)) 12,35 kg 2,53 kg filler aquivalent 495 m/s 105mm/all

(More Pictures in Hl/C)
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Gr.39 Rot Hl/C (Heat) 12,35 kg 2,53 kg filler aquivalent 495 m/s 115mm/all

(Early no Tracer, implemented during production.)
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10,5 / 7,5 cm Pzgr.39 TS (Apcbc-DS) 6,4 kg 17g H.10 765 m/s 138mm/10m

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He:


F.H.Gr. (He (TF) (No Tracer)) 14,81 kg 1,75 kg filler Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,24 kg TnTa) 470 m/s

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F.H.Gr. F (He (TF) (No Tracer)) 14,81 kg 2,21-2,335 kg filler Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,83-2,99 kg TnTa) 540 m/s

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10,5 / 8,8 cm Sprgr.42 Ts (He-DS (No Tracer)) 9,3 kg 850-935g Fp.02 and Np.10 (1,088-1,197 kg) 620 m/s

(Didnt find the drawings, as such here is the real thing)
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Utility:


F.H.Gr. Nb. (Smoke (No Tracer)) 14 kg 50g smokestuff dont expect much 480 m/s

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Kt. (Canister Shot (No Tracer)) 15 kg 465 m/s

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H.Schr.16 (Shrapnell-TF (No Tracer)) 15,6 kg 0,2 kg Blackpowder 461m/s

450 Steelballs of 13,8mm
Some incendary effect by the pitch around the balls.
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Vehicle:
Geschützwagen Lorrain Schlepper(f)
Armor: 9-12mm
Engine: 6 cylinder 70 Ps at 2800 rpm
Speed: 35km/h
Weight: 7,7 tons
Dimensions: 4,22m / 1,57m / 2m
Crew: 4

Source:

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Geschossringbuch II
2C7
Beute Kraftfahrzeuge und der Panzer der deutschen Wehrmacht (Walter J Spielberger)

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Is that a weisel behind the first vehicle lmao

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+1

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+1

That seems to be a modified Renault UE Chenillette. Note the 2 funny looking cupolas for the driver and another crew member.

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Artillerie Beobachtungsfahrzeug.
They build a couple different models of them, stay near and look for impacts and stuff.
Artillery observation vehicle.

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A +1 from me, yes to more of these neat little captured conversions

i hope there were some modifications which had like 20mm with it

Not that i know of, at most they were armed with an Mg 34, they werent intended to fight, merly look for impacts and such.

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The closest other vehicle would be this.

The last two in the line are funny looking.

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Thank you @Ghostmaxi for bringing back these different vehicles from oblivion ! Hoping to see them one day in game.