I want the br spread to be uncompressed, and the br selection window to be compressed.
Multiple things can be true and once and it’s not a difficult concept.
Would be nice. Don’t play air much due to the horrific compression tbh.
The fgr2 spading was… not a fun time which is a weird thing for a game.
“Arguing for BR decompression is ragebaiting.”
“Arguing for BR decompression is shilling for Gaijin.”
“Arguing for BR decompression is attention seeking.”
Just a few claims made in this topic that are absolutely insane.
@SwingfireOP
Uncompressiong the BR spread means increasing it, or moving it beyond 1.0.
Making a number less is called compression.
It’s not a difficult concept.
And it’s objectively easier and superior to decompress the BRs than change the matchmaker.
chill out, autist, was talking about the BMPT comment
we all know decompression is the key, but its never happening because nobody here actually does anything to challenge gaijins greed
I don’t say this bad
I just hope you play like this
Ok.
You know dammed well what I mean. I want to separate vehicles which should never, never face each other and also reduce the br spread to .7 to reduce the technology shock.
I’m done playing word games with you and you twisting things.
This will be my last response to you on this topic.
Lol. Lol.
10.7 ground is now 12.7.
13.3 air is now 14.7. Yes, Su-30SM2 would be 13.3 right now if we didn’t have decompression in the last 2 years.
Decompression is happening with the pressure we give.
It’s slow, but it’s steady.
@SwingfireOP
Then go play World of Tanks or Armored Warfare.
I literally switched to War Thunder in part because of the superior decompressed matchmaker that allows for more nuanced BRs.
Just look at the top 4 BRs of ground, “over”-decompressed to the point that Leclerc and M1A1 are 1.0 BR apart despite being gameplay identical.
THAT is hilarious.
Only can work in a 4 slot matchmaker, can’t in a 3 slot.
Its slowly engineered to never actually meet the games real demands, creating an infinite cycle of fake metas just to make the minions spend more
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It doesn’t need to get uptiered for that
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No one actually meta chases.
The meta is Abrams lineup, Leopard 2s, and Strv 122s.
You know how many skilled players are using those lineups?
Not as many as Arietes, T-series, and China.
you have this nasty habit of projecting yourself onto people, but it doesn’t work because of how deep your autism goes
Where did I say 12.0 Cas is op?
Where did I say Terminators are best in 11.3 but since you ask, what is better 11.3
Where did I say Fuji/ Type 90’s are best in 11.7?
Fuji and terminator are best examples how tanks what can stomp everything on 1br below quite easily when not talking about top tier.
Last time I played WOT , there was ±2 Rank MM in there, and to be honest it was far worse stomping on rank 6 tanks against Rank 8. But nice that you could bring up game, where MM is even worse compared to WT.
Yeah, and how devs usually end up making these changes in war thunder.
They raise BR to example 13.7 on ground, and then they adjust every tanks up by 0.7 BR after that, and what ya know, we have same situation as we had before this. Just Br’s being changed, but still facing same tanks on uptiers as before.
Personally I would say best way how gaijin could actually get data out of this 0.7Mm is to make it a couple day long test, so they can see how it effects on queue time what was years before reason why it is still 1.0±
Could get actually player feedback and toughts of if how it went on live games, was it bad or actually good thing.
Your sentence was weirdly structured; I probably expected a comma, my bad.
If we didn’t have decompression in the last 2 years, Su-30SM2 would be 13.3 right now, and Leopard 2A7V would be 10.7.
Yes, World of Tanks had the same system that’s being demanded here.
0.7 is +2 over 1, or a 3 slot system.
This is why decompression is overall better, while also being faster and easier to implement.
Because contrary to unpopular belief, it takes far more study and planning than decompression.
Decompression requires less study, and the same amount or less work hours to implement than changing the matchmaker.
Also Gaijin can’t make 0.7 a couple day long test because it requires more work than decompression, so they’d just decompress more instead.
Actually your WOT reference is far away from this 0.7Mm actually.
There tanks are divided by Ranks not BR. and those are 1,2,3,4,5etc. No halves , no fractions just straight ranks
So it would be actually closer to ±2MM on WT , and in WOT players seriously wanted ±1 MM in there also when I played it.
And if WOT is not known to someone it could be put in WT like having basic T72 on 9.3 (rank8)facing T90M and strv122B (at rank 10)
That 0.7Br MM is actually more referenced in ±1 on WOT what it was not least years ago.
0.7 is 0.0, 0.3, and 0.7: Or 0, 1, 2.
World of Tanks is 1, 2, and 3. Or 0, 1, 2.
They are identical matchmaking ranges.
That’s the math…
World of Tanks is far more compressed than War Thunder as well.
World of Tanks 1 to 10 is equivalent of BRs 1 - 6.0. Maus is currently 7.7 mind you.
World of Tanks’ Maus sits where War Thunder’s Tiger 1 sits relative to other tanks.
Wouldn’t it be pretty simple to change what ever line of code dictates the BR spread from 1.0 to 0.7? For a multi-day test there wouldn’t be any need to go through and change what ever vehicle BRs would need rebalancing; just test the concept.
Decompression would require each vehicle BR to be reconsidered and changed. Decompression should go from bottom to top (rather than increasing the top BR for a couple new vehicles) and would require adjusting over 2000 (?) different vehicle BRs.
Edit: might be less than 2000 vehicles if you didn’t throw in naval stuff. Just tanks and planes.
Proper decompression is objectively better, and 0.7 is a bandaid solution that doesn’t solve vehicles of vastly different performance levels being the same BR (such as the J32B/Mig-19s, F-15A/Mig-29, or the F-18A/F-4EJ Kai).
Plus, like Alvis has said, 4 levels to choose from in one BR bracket makes it easier to balance than only 3.