Z-19 go to 11.7? Are you serious?

Gaijin didn’t give them the 16 AKD-9 or TY-90, and you’re moving them to 11.7? ?

Besides, this was a passed issue long ago — it should have been implemented ages ago. Now, for what reason was this change canceled?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/lQHlYysQmymhThen
And why would I just play the Z-10, which has better armament and is also at 11.7,TY-90×16 & akd10×8

dev team should reconsider the changes regarding the Z-19.

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It’s not even worth 11.3

the only reason it’s higher is because it’s not a complete free meal for a plane

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I don’t know what gaijin are thinking

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And the better AH-64’s are 11.3 now, lol

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I think that’s probably correct, more specifically helis with the TY-90s are over BRed due to people that used too hover next to the enemy air spawn and blast people the second they spawned.

Z-10> 12.0 incoming

Even leaving aside the complete 11.7 upper level of Z-10, the performance of Akd9 itself cannot be compared with the Hellfire K model at all. The laser guidance of this weight is pure garbage. Does overemphasizing the performance of ty90 deviate from the original intention of an armed helicopter? Even the performance of ty90 in the game is not satisfactory.。

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But China has no vehicles at 12.0, apart from the CS/AS5, a SPAA, unless they plan to further adjust the BRs.
Although the Z-19’s air-to-air capability is indeed decent, the tactic you mentioned of camping enemy aircraft at their air spawn isn’t really a normal playstyle.
Most helicopter players are more interested in engaging ground targets, and I think helicopters should prioritize air-to-ground capability.

Furthermore, are 16 AKD-9s really better than 8 AKD-10s? Another important point: the AH-64 has better AGM-114K ×16 and sits at 11.3, but the Z-19 at11.7 really doesn’t have TY-90 & AKD-9 ×16.

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I don’t get this change at all. If they are going based on player stats, isn’t it similar to the commanche? Why didn’t that go up?

Were they planning to bring up in BR regardless of the missle count change?


It depends on how much you value potential kills. If I had the option to chose between 16 Atakas or 8 Krizentemas, I’d probably pick the Atakas in most scenarios. Though this is excluding the platform capabilities which gets a bit more complicated.

Its up to personal preference imo.

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This just shows that they don’t play their game, or they don’t look at other comparable vehicles. The AH-64 gets 16× AGM-114K at 11.3, while the Z-19 is stuck with 8× TY-90 (which they think is “powerful”) at 11.7.

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They should give it akd 10 or something with mmw

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I am not suggesting that happen, nor do I think it should. I am just making a joke on what Gaijin is likely to do with the comparison of the Z-19 and Z-10.

No, but it’s like the people rushing bases in fighters carrying napalm in ARB and getting them up tiered to the point that they can no longer compete in air combat, Gaijin just looks at the reward generation and adjusts the BR accordingly, the whole balancing system is busted.

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Pretty much.


This is gonna be unpopular to some, but I firmly believe the hellfire is one of the worst agms for 11.7 to 12.0. It just can’t reliably hit targets at medium range and require the target to stationary of its moving it needs to be in the open and moving predictably. Majority of the issues stems from its PID.

The only reason why it’s at that BR is how many you can carry and platform.

The DAP despite carries 16 of em, is at 11.0. If you look at the Apache the main difference is 4stingers, cannon and maneuverability. It’s ground capabilities are the same. This used to be at 11.7.

I’m not gonna pretend and say that I have extensive use of the ba9 or Chinese helis in general (I have 50ish games in the z19) but from playing it I much prefer the ba9. I can hit target reliably where as with hellfire, I’m playing Russian roulette. The damage is pittiful but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make in exchange for accuracy.

Had the Z19 got its 16agm count, 11.7 would be fine imo but it doesn’t get them. It should remain at 11.3.

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If z19 get the akd 10 and 16 ty90,z10a maybe is replaced by z19(z19 even better

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It got slammed hard by the implementation of missile physics, sometimes it won’t have the energy to pull when it needs to or even reach 8km. The AKD-9/10 didn’t get hit as hard and both use sustainer motors making them much more agile the whole flight (it’s been a minute since I last checked but the AKD-10 will reach 9.1/9.2km before self detonating).

Personally I prefer the extra standoff range so have more time to react against SAMs, 6km is anemic >11.0.

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Useless, just prefire

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