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Serbia seems to be finally close to a deal on buying new Rafales!
According to a couple of sites, they’ll be the F4 standard which makes sense given they’re a newer order. They might make for a decent variation for the tree in the future.
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Where there is Air, there must be ground.
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I’m fortunate to own and fly a Kraguj in the real world and you’ve missed out the rocket rails there and understated the bomb load slightly.
Weapons loadout options from the flight manual are as follows:
Fixed guns: 2 x 7.7mm MKII Colt Brownings with 650 rounds each.
Inner pylon options:
2 x 50kg bombs
2 x 100kg bombs
2 x 150kg KPT-150 or S-8-16 Cluster bombs
2 x 150litre PLAB-150 Napalm bombs
2 x 12 or 16 L57 Rocket packs
2 x HVAR-5inch (127mm) Rockets
Outer pylons options:
2 x HVAR-5inch (127mm) Rockets
2 x VRZ-57 (57mm) Rockets
Its an angry little thing to fly in the real world and is a hoot to chuck around at low level, not sure I’d want to go to war in one however. I have all the info Gaijin could ever want should they ever decide they want to add it to the game…
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Was there any gunpods that yuga used on those or not? I’ve yet to see the thing’s manual yet even though it is available through slovenian army’s archives.
Nope no gun pods listed, just the 2 x internal brownings…
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Solid tree 🤙 looking forward to capping it with the Rafale
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I would remove the S-92 as you point out, it was just demonstrated. Juga did place order but much like the orders for the T-10A it was never fulfilled.
Plus. If the leak holds true. We will see the S-92 next to Jugo aircraft. Just under the polish TT.
But hypothetically. Lets say Juga did get its own tt. I think a better fit would be the soviet aircraft that Jugoslavia didn’t get from the Bulgarians or even the Albanians.
I would also say remove the Ca.311. Its just an overall worse version of the Ca.310.
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Looks good to me! My dad is from there so I would love to represent the country in my favorite game. I hate to say this, but I think it would at least take a while considering there isn’t anything about the country except the Royal Yugoslav Air Force roundel. Only recommendations would be “stretching” some lines out. Maybe try and put the Su-25 in 7. (and im guessing the L-# jets are MiGs?)
the L in front of some names stands for “Lovec” which is (literally) translated to hunter or rather as English knows it: fighter. It’s similar with the J-# aircraft where the J stands for “Jurišnik” translating to attacker. No idea what the G stands for tho
G stands for Galeb
The 3 classes of aircraft. Fighter, attacker and seagull
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yeah. why not. The B in B-29 stands for Boeing-29
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I know I was just making a silly joke
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There is literally a MiG-23ML in the Belgrade Aviation Museum and its missing from this tree.
Correction:
Source 1: “In 1989 IQAF sent 10 MiG-23ML to Yugoslavia for overhaul and intense maintenance. During the Gulf War II, these airframes were kept stored in Serbia until -and according to some sources -they were serviced on 2002.”
Source 2: “10 MiG-23ML (export subvariant B) with registrations 23252, 23269, 23292, 23267, 23260, 23279, 23288, 23278, 23290 and 23272 came to Zmaj for mid-level overhaul. Out of these aircraft only 23269 has been overhauld. That MiG-23 flew to Željava AFB and than to Batajnica AFB by pilot Omer Avdaković. Aircraft was handed over to Moma Stanojlović Air Force Technical MRO Institute, while other 23s were put in storage at 160th Logistic Support Base at Pančevo, city near Belgrade. For some time, 23269 formed part of the open exibition of the YAF Museum at Nikola Tesla Int’l. Now it is in Moma Stanojlović Depot.”
It is likely that the aircraft did not arrive with their original munitions and, if needed, could only be armed with R-60s or older missile systems available locally, unless they were modified to carry MiG-29 compatible ordnance which was most likely never carried out.
Sources:
https://www.paluba.info/smf/index.php?action=printpage%3Btopic%3D25662.0&utm_source
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If they only tested it, I don’t think it should be included. Before you say it, I don’t think the Swedish T-80U and Mi-28 should be in the game
At least 1 was ready to fly and fight until the country collapsed. Armament for it was interchangeable with the existing MiG-21s.
Now these could apparently be Iraqi MiG-21SMTs. Yugoslavia did not operate MiG-21SMTs, so it could be another interesting addition. According to the source they also featured a distinct camouflage pattern (as seen on the photographs).
“Regarding 21s, only 8 Iraqi MiG-21SMT remained in Yugoslavia. As I said, despite SMT designation they are actually bis variant with addition of air condition system. During NATO aggression against the FRY radars were stripped from IQAF MiGs and used for imitation of AD radars. Also airframes were put to visible locations as baits imitating FRYAF Fishbeds but they were recognized because of their camouflage so none has been destroyed. They are now in Moma Stanojlović Depot but in poor state. Iraqi officials were briefly interested in them but lost interest after inspection of the state of aircraft and after they were informed on possibilities and cost to back them in flyable condition.”
“I know some Iraqi AF, Libyan AF and Sudan AF aircraft did underwent maintenance at Zmaj. I have seen pictures of Libyan AF MiG-21bis 209, Sudanese AF MiG-21US 300 and Iraq AF MiG-23ML 23269.”
“In July 1991 there were 56 aircraft of different types in the “ZMAJ” institute: 13 aircraft in working order were transferred in July 1991, while 43 non-operational aircraft were evacuated along with all spare parts, i.e. 1,329 components, in the first half of December 1991.”
Sources:
https://www.paluba.info/smf/index.php?action=printpage%3Btopic%3D25662.0&utm_source
https://yumodelclub.tripod.com/yugoslav_air_force/iraqi_migs_in_yugoslavia.htm
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+1. The aviation tech tree appears fairly sizable, which I genuinely believe would be a solid addition to the game.
I’ve always admired Yugoslav aircraft like the Ikarus IK-2, Rogožarski IK-3, and Ikarus S-49, and I’d like to see them in the game one day.
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on a similar note, i believe yugoslavia once had iraqi floggers in the 90s that they used for testing
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