i mean, the biggest nations always tried to make a plane with a big cannon to destroy tanks or planes, mainly bombers since irl bombers are actually a game-changing vehicle that can determinate if u win the war or spend all ur resources in something that’s inevitable (Germany be like).
that’s irl data, which isn’t modelled in WT for obvious reasons.
if u want realism to get added to the game, i can make u sure u would regret very quickly about ur decision.
P-39 has bad pen, however the Hs 129 is actually good and better.
the “Duck” has a better cannon with better APHE and better penetration, with the extra that it has a very good sight to make ur shots even easier to do, and it’s way more tanky than the sh*tty Yak-9K.
if u have footage/proofs of the NS-45 not having APHE then it should be done, in that case everybody would start using Yak-9T since it would be better (71mm vs. 59mm), and u would probably start complaining about it too.
it already has a very high chance of jamming, wdym.
try to fire more than 5 shots in a row and let’s see how easily it jams.
or just use an AAA and take it down, aiming a tank cannon in a plane is not ez, especially when u need to aim for weakspots/fly close to the target to get enough pen. it isn’t the first time i need like 10 shots to destroy a Tiger II cuz the roof is too thick and i need to get closer than normal while caring about my surroundings to not crash.
how can i tell u i use it in my 5.7 lineup cuz i can’t use Yak-9UT due to it’s higher BR?
i wouldn’t care if it goes to 5.7, but it would be too much to move a plane from 4.0 to 5.7 (+1.7).
what u’re watching here is just a really good Yak-9K player, nothing special, it’s not the plane being too good, but him using it correctly/in a risky way with good results.
this is a 5.7 match and against easy targets + in a flat map without too much high buildings that force u to fly higher/get out of the dive earlier to not crash + no SPAAs. i could tell u how hard it is to play with it when there’s an actually good AAA/SPAA in the enemy team.
Have you even played the duck? It barely flies as it is. Any slight damage makes it fall out of the sky.
What you are looking for is actually lack of proof it had the APHE. Proof of something not existing is different than no proof of it existing.
Unless you use full real controls its as easy as point and click.
Wow there is a whole <10 tanks of the hundreds in game that the yak has to actually aim to kill. While the rest can just be pointed at and exploded with a random shot.
You don’t need to be tanky if you have a pretty decent flight model that can go toe to toe with german and american fighter planes when used right in the 4.0-5.0 BR range (ironically, it might do better vs late german props if they play its game than earlier ones. The 109 F-4 easily out-dogfights it while the 109 G-14 and K-4 don’t.)
Obviously the K-4 and G-14 can just… spaceclimb if they see a Yak-9K. OTOH, this is 109s with stick & rudder (so able to pull 16.9 AoA, but ideally 15.0 AoA vs RB controls where they can only pull 12.0 AoA. Meaning, 109 F-4 goes from pulling like 23 deg/s to like 18 deg/s in GRB.)
ignoring all the avantages it has just to trash talk about me
Yes, and it’s good, the only downside is the bad A2A weaponry it has (2 7.92mm) and maybe the huge recoil of the 75mm cannon.
For it’s BR it’s extremely tanky, even 12.7mm struggle to do serious damages to the fuselage, only shots to the tail or control surfaces are a decent way to take it down.
I couldn’t find data about it having APHE just it not having APHE.
If there’s not proof of each one then it would need to remain as it is rn. Btw it would be trash without APHE, Yak-9T would be a lot better in that case.
It isn’t, u don’t have metric lines like tank sights to aim correctly, u rather have to do ranging shots or be really close to the target, and that consumes time/valuable ammo.
I would want u to show me how many tanks the Yak can one shot at 5.7 and 6.7, cuz at least for me it takes more than 3 shots most of the time.
Wow, another trash talker ignoring all the advantages i just goddamn said, skipping straight up to insult me cuz he wants and going against the rules.
Better at tanking SPAA shots, tell me how much can the Yak tank without ripping a wing with a few shots to one.
Flying from a very high angle (45 degrees minimum, 60 degrees too. 90 is likely too steep with how easily yaks rip though unless you slip which messes up aim)
Flying very quickly (never go under 450 km/h)
Jinking (wiggle yourself going in until it’s time to line up the strafe)
All of which the Yak-9K can do much better than the duck.
The above 3 work quite excellently in Il2: Great Battles combat box for attacking airfields and anti-air covered factories with my P-47 and P-51s.
(and for the Fw 190 dora that vulched me last night on take off. Guy was basically a mosquito buzzing around at like 550 km/h dodging shots like it was the matrix. Took down 2 C-47 paratrooper planes before they took off and crippled my P-51D-15 as I was taking off and then wrecked some hangars)
It quite simply is not. The gun is good sure but the plane itself? utter dogshit. Underpowered engines, wack flight model, it just flies like a brick.
No. If there is not proof of it having APHE we don’t have to prove it did not have it. If I look in my pantry and I don’t find any tomatoes I don’t have to then find evidence of me not having tomatoes. It’ s just not how that works
Whatever. It was fine before they added it and it only had HE. It does not have to be effective at killing tanks to be a good plane. And similarly the inability to kill tanks does not make it a bad plane.
The gun is still a fucking laser that is way too acurate and thus not hard to aim at all.
Skill issue then or what? Any tank that is not enormous with very spread out crew can be oneshot. I also was not talkin about oneshots, I was talking aboutyou complaining the tiger 2 roof is too thick. So moot point
Only cannon CAS comin close to the yak-9K FM and aphe usage is the F.C.20 Bis at 2.0 (could be 2.3 or even 2.7 tbh) and the Ki-45 Otsu.
Both are autocannon 37mil
but none are as common because:
1- both are rank I, you can’t farm daily tasks, special tasks or events w them
2- The nation’s tanks aren’t the top notch of their BRs
3- Both from Minor nations
4- 90% of tank players only know about turnfights, both of these don’t turn well.
5- Uncapped aphe, performance falls as soon as any incline is present
6- firerate is still pretty slow and shootin once creates a lot of kickback, since the cannons aren’t shaft mounted, the recoils moves the aircraft’s nose.
