YaK-9K: Remove it's APHE belt or move it up to 5.7 in GRB

I know right. Then make my goddamned Do 335 have 200mm of armor since it costs over 800 SP with bombs + full AP belts for both 15 and 30mm guns!

Lol, lmao.

You sure know a lot about gamemodes you have literally zero battles in. Throwing around the idea of a massive economy change with no consideration to the effects it will have outside of your sweaty gamer zone despite having no experience outside there. Call me back when you get the purplest of purple numbers and I’ll still tell you that you can’t be in two places at once, but a squad can.

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6.0 is a little much, 5.7 seems fair because Russia has a great lineup there. tbh there isn’t a single BR in the game where it won’t just clear out entire teams, you can get 5+ kills with this thing at top tier.

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I am really unsure that Yak-9K need to be placed higher than 109 K-4 or Spitfire LF Mk.IX, all because of the silly APHE belt. from current 4.0BR.

I am double sure that a skilled Bf109 K-4 or Tempest Mk.V player can eat a 3-squad of Yak-9K alive in 1v3.

Maybe it can have higher BR in ‘Ground realisitic’ than current 4.3

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Apparently the 9k, which was never previously mentioned as a “problem plane” with a broken fm gained a crazy fm with the aphe belt and is now competitive against every single prop.

Not really.

APHE belt converted it into a great anti-ground plane that compared to other nations planes that play that role is able to fight the air better than said other nations units

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In the end, everything would be settled with tank only game mode, so i could still enjoy my Jak9K, as well as i could enjoy playing pure tanks without any planes.

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Ja, I changed the title rn.

I meant that the YaK-9K would be around 5.0-6.0 for GRB!!!
In ARB and AAB it’ll be completely different I KNOW.

That shell does exist, however they used Ground Frag Fomula which is 800% more destructive only on this one xD

It’s fine in air modes where it is.

In ground it is not.

It’s too good as a fighter to justify its ability to one/double-tap tanks with APHE.

APHE + capability to genuinely compete with bf109s: Not at all comparable to Duck and Stuka.
You could compare it against the 4B, which is 5.7.
Yak-9K is not 5.7 material.
But with its APHE it is more capable than any other 4.3 pure air superiority or ground-support plane.
It has multi-role capability.

  • 4B is also multi-role. it’s 5.7
  • P-47s are multi-role and same/less BR. They’re horrible fighters at low altitude and when slow.
  • Yak-9K thrives at low-speed near-stall conditions.
  • F4U-4 is multi-role, and while it’s my favourite plane IRL and love flying it when the lobbies don’t suck (ju-288 needs to be shoved up to 6.3 or 6.7)… I hate seeing it in GRB in my KV-1 Zis-5 and could probably go up to 5.3 like it is in SB to compensate for its multirole capability. Like the Yak-9k, it also thrives on roll rate and has amazing near-stall control so not having altitude isn’t that big of a deal. Does need altitude, but 1 km is sufficient diving room.
  • D5 mustang is technically multi-role at 4.0, but like P-47 it’s neutered by not having diving room (with diving room it can kill Bf109K4s who think diving away and scissors are win conditions).
  • F6F-5 Hellcat is a pretty good multi-role plane and just 1km alt is enough for it to do its magic. I don’t really see it in GRB due to its low BR so i cannot judge.
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just remove all russian vehicles form the game

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Yeah, basically 90% of topics on this forum

UT is not better as it turns much worse. It’s faster, but it has to pull up earlier. Generally, Yak-9K is a huge pain in the butt to balance, as with some short learning period, it can just repeatedly slam everyone through the roof at relatively short range. Even if German 30mm got APHE belt woth 48mm pen, it wouldn’t matter as no MK103 armed plane can pull up as late as Yak-9K can.

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I find UT to be incomparably better due to much less time required to regain energy and 20mm being enough to deal with planes by itself.

Being able to save up 45mm on tanks only is a huge advantage.

Besides quicker energy regain it is also faster overall. In fact it doesn’t turn much worse than 9k and it actually doesn’t even matter. 45mm has a very quick RoF and if you are good enough with it, you will be taking everyone out within one or two shots.

You may need to pull up earlier due to higher speed, but more often than not you don’t need this advantage at all, since unless your aim is really bad, you won’t need that longer diving time at all. Shooting enemies down from higher altitude is actually better, since you are less vulnerable to Anti Air which is a bane of gun CAS as a whole

Yeah, but UT should probably be 6.0 or 6.3 in GRB.

Also, Soviet 12,7mm MG with Universal belt is 50% HE and these HE bullet essentialy can rip a wing/tail off in 2 shots or at least will cripple your plane, all thangs to real sh*tter 3.0. I feel fairly confident innmy ability to shoot down 2-3 planes with MG alone. My aim may be well above zverage, but it’s still not great. Almost anyone can do that.

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UT is already 6.0 in GRB and i think it’s fine.

9k deserves to go up from 4.3, but definitely not to 5.7, it’s ridiculous. This is 5.0 material at best.

1x 12,7mm is not reliable against planes regardless of how good it is. And won’t be to even higher extent at higher BR.

With 20mm at least you are more or less guaranteed a decent critical damage with a hit, with 12,7 it can vary a lot.

If you are fighting someone that allows you to shoot as much as you want it’s not a problem. But in a close dogfight each firing window matters. Your 12,7 decides to do nothing in that short moment when you can shoot and you might as well end up dead because of that

it would still be able to do the EXCACT “fun” thing at a higher br.

Hell… ive been one tapped by a Yak 9 many times at 6.7 in an American heavy.

So no, the only thing that will change is the enemy might have a bit better defence against it, but i guess that’s the problem, not being able to eradicate the entire enemy team with a few Yaks.

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