They gave them APHE shells.
Suddenly what was fine with HVAP (kill tanks, be impotent vs planes - engine block can kill, but delayed) or HEFI (one tap planes, be impotent vs tanks) became able to one-tap tanks and planes (fuze sensitivity is weak versus wings, but if you land a hit on the engine block the target disintigrates) alike.
What’s funny is that APCR is simply worse than the 37mm AP.
Remove the filler from the APHE and a 45mm solid shot is almost as effective, other flat angles.
It’s incredible how Gaijin gives APCR such bad penetration performance that the entire point of APCR is negated.
What’s also funny is that 37mm AP also has more penetration than even 45mm APHE, while the document, which shows testing of the 45mm APHE, shows it to penetrate armor the 37mm AP-T can’t.
The NS-37 could also fire the same APCR shell as the ZSU-37, and that APCR also outperforms the 45mm APCR from the NS-45 in the game.
I just noticed. The Yak-9UT was never equipped with the NS-45 but the N-45.
The N-45 is basically the N-37 but with a 45mm barrel, just how the NS-45 is just a NS-37 with larger barrel.
This was apparently an experimental gun and no information on it or the ammunition seems to be available, other than it had the same 400 RPM RoF as the N-37.
It appears to use different ammunition from the NS-45, potentially N-57 shells but scaled down to 45mm.
So it would only fire explosive ammunition at an unknown muzzle velocity but most likely around 600m/s.
The N-57 was probably inspired by German 55mm cannon development, just how the ZSU-57 was the result of the German 55mm FlaK development.
With the idea to bring down a larger bomber in a single hit.
Since the NS-45 was already known for destroying the Yak-9s airframe, it would make no sense to mount the gun again.
The NS-37 was developed into the N-37, which had better RoF and lower weight, making it a much better aircraft armament. Hence why the NS-37 was not tried in the Yak-9UT and since the NS-45 was a failure, the next step would be the N-45, which would potentially have the desired effect of increased effectiveness over the 37mm caliber.
But this gun obviously never made it any serial production, and the N-37 was used as anti-bomber armamentf or Soviet interceptors and fighters.
Bombers getting sniped by derp guns is a long standing tradition in War Thunder
This topic is another proof to the theory i am forming, that war thunder players does not want the game to be fun - that you all want to ruin and destroy every single vehicle that is different from other generic planes/tanks.
Something is different, have unique capabilities? UNTHINKABLE, GAIJIN PLS NERF!
Nerf this, raise BR of that, remove this, change this - You all would be happy if gaijin would remove everything and would just add 1 plane/tank for every nation with the same stats, so everything would be bALaNcEd
War thunder community is the biggest enemy of gaijin
I meant that it should get a higher BR for GRB.
It’s not that. t’s just that the YaK-9 is outright unbalanced. Sure it has a unique thing. Ability to kill everything it see without using bombs and one-tapping tigers. Might as well as give my Bf109 laser cannons.
to be killed by anyone not braindead flying Spit 14/18/LF9?
it got 1 Berezin UB and 1 NS-45 dude. that ain’t gonna kill anything. different story if it got 2 ho-103
It’s a CAS platform that has the unique capability of retaining A2A power without having to jettison its CAS load. In ARB and ASB it can stay at 4.3, but in GRB its ability to change between competent A2A and A2G without either suffering should be revised.
Best option is removing the APHE from it.
Second best is upping its BR so that it’s like the duck or TIS-MA: Incredibly potent ground-attacker that cannot also be used to contest the skies at the same time. At 4.3, proper use of its roll rate lets it compete against a lot of planes.
Best option is to leave it alone. Stop trying to remove everything from this game
Once again you want cas being revised without playing it yourself as such. Please stop doing this.
I’ve proven to you that it is quite competent against Bf109Gs, against Ki-61 (Tea Rex’s video with 9M, which is close enough in performance), and even capable of surviving in a furball (Defyn and Wingalingdragon).
It is a direct contradiction of your earlier claims.
And let the YaK ruin all matches between 4.0-5.0 GRB? Nice Idea for you since I bet you’re another wallet warrior playing top-tier w/ the clickbait.
And the chances of finding something that flies that not CAS and also not braindead is as rare as seeing two nukes and a Panther II and the Flakpanzer 341 in a same match altogehter.
The Spitfire LF9 cannot see the YaK-9s in a match since the LF9 is 5.3 GRB and the YaK-9K (highest BR of all YaK-9s) is 4.0 GRB. Unless they are purposely brought up like a lot, they won’t be able to face LF-9s and are not supposed to.
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Yeah, right
Yup.
Maybe it ruins it for you, but there are a lot worse things than a flying cannon. How about we move the Junkers up a bunch of BRs too, since they are flying cannons. We could also move the Me Cannon up too. Oh, and any regular plane that can pen a light tank? Straight to 7.7 to you.
It’s a plane, CAS ruins the game anyways, stop crying about a plane that literally has to shoot you instead of just dropping 1,000kg on you.
Those planes cannot reverse a plane sitting on their tail barring the guy behind them flying straight and overshooting after coming in with extreme closure. Now tail gunner might alleviate that need, but in my experience stuka tailgunners aren’t very threatening. The duck itself is a massive fat target, so easy to shoot before the tailgunners can engage you anyway.
Yak-9s can dogfight with Ki-61s and gustavs and go back to CASing with a few rounds emptier cannons, but no other loss of potential.
If Yak-9 only had HVAP, it’d not be that big of an issue as HVAP requires a precise shot at ammo rack to achieve the same thing as APHE anywhere into the turret does.
LOL, we have a much bigger problem than that in the 4.0–5.0 BR range.
