Yak-141 (Late) specs:
1)No guns
2)Can’t fly
3)Can mount rust
Place of dislocation - scrapyard
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Although they were bought unarmed, in 1948 they were armed in multiple places by gunners with 7.62mm machine guns, and in 1956 during the war, they were upgraded with .50 Cals in the same places as the American ones, although the turrets and placements were slightly different between the B-17Gs Israel operated. It’s not completely ahistorical, and it’s fairly accurate for the 1956 standards applied to these bombers.
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Thanks for the correction, and extra info. :D
I only knew that they were nearly unarmed at the beginning.
I apologise if you became disturbed cause of my claim.
Sorry.
No need to apologize lol, it’s all good haha. Israeli Air Force history, especially early on, is sparse at best and quite confusing sometimes.
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This is the Air Force Museum in Monino, in winter it looks like this…
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It was last restored in 2011… Фотография самолёта · Яковлев · Як-41М (Як-141) · 141 (зав.н. Изд. 48-3) · КБ Яковлева ✈ russianplanes.net ✈ наша авиация
And these are serial flying F-35C…
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an actively used naval aircraft doing routine sorties over rough seas vs. a museum piece that got a fresh coat of paint
Wasn’t Yak-141 real payload just wooden mockup weapons to test aerodynamics and for weight studies? Its said the pylons weren’t even wired. The radar was a wooden block as well, just to simulate weight.
All pics I can find confirm that. Just mockup missiles without even openings for the rocket engine.
What is this thread about?
This Panther has a wooden mockup weapon as well. Can we please upgrade it, too?
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That wooden mockup weapons doesn’t means it is a not go payload. Thats is a normal way to use the weight and aerodynamic of particular weapons form to test stress in the airframe. Me and everybody, with minimal aeronautic knowledge catch that in a glans. You are not in that knowledge group.
Doesn’t change the fact that it never carried real weapons. It lacked all neccessary internal systems and all wirings to control ordnance. This also applies for the gun. This jet was just able to fly as a test bed.
The entire fire control system of Yak-141 was functional, it was just <2 months from being installed all in one package for testing before cancellation.
It’s equivalent to the Kikka where the Kikka guns were there ready to be installed, but weren’t cause it was cancelled before.
If it was, how is it any different to the GPU-5/A for the F-15A & -15C? And why is the former ok if the latter isn’t?
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? I never mentioned brochures, nor did I entertain that goalpost ever in my life.
On top of that, the 30mm gunpod is usable on F-16A unknown-block but not on F-16C as an example of compatibility being changed.
Which as mentioned in the topic the Smin’s quote is from, isn’t even in the game. Even though it was reported way back when the F-16 was on the Dev server and is in the files for the Block-10.
Because it was a trial, and discontinued after less than a week due to vibrations and constantly losing it’s zero.
This reasoning would open the door for all kinds of fantasy units. Like the Flakpanzer. The guns were existing and functional as well, the project was just canceled before they had been mounted. The Flakpanzer is not ingame. But the Yak is… And its even requested to add more and more weapons, cause it was ‘planned’… Not fair.
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Brimstone on Harrier GR.7 when. XD
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Super Hornet with brimstones when?
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No, it doesn’t. Also that reasoning is literally why Ho-229 is allowed to be in the game.
Provide proof of the turret being functional.
@Stockholm_Blend
1- Prove that Harrier GR7 isn’t in service.
2- That’s likely GR-9.
Man… you are taking everything seriously :|
It was on the Joke level. Come on.
Yes, it was GR.9
Still, there is no GR.9 (in-game)
And there is another example of Jaguar GR.1A with a TIALD pod.
(If I know right, the TIALD pod came from a slightly later variant.)
Soo… If Gaijin goes haywire enough to make ‘What-if’ kind of shit more and more.
There will be Brimmy-armed GR.7 or AIM-120 armed F-14D :/
Not fair what? You don’t gonna use it right. It’s not your business how people have fun with the real payload was planned and tested. Winning because people want to be happy?
Wood was tested. You want the real payload? Lets remove the missiles and add wood.
I fail to see how him not able to get a flakpanzer because it wasn’t mounted to a body equates to not having to use the 141.
I guess the best way to put Thodin’s point what makes your aircraft so special it deserves a manufactured armament but other nations can not.
Personally I would have used the EAP as an example instead of the Flakpanzer.
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