So one less guided bomb, but the A-4E’s are much better (Walleyes and GBU-8), A-4E has better guns with more ammo, RWR, flares, AND you can still take air to air missiles/a small rocket load on top of the guided bombs, which the 130 cannot.
Where’s the balance issue?
Also there’s an identical TT A-4E, with only a slightly weaker engine.
TV guidance tracking range is 3 - 5km.
SPAA range at 9.7 is 5 - 7km.
Yak-130 only has guided bombs at 9.0 for air RB, it’s 9.3 in ground, which is where 5+ other jets have guided weapons.
SPAA with APDS/AP is worse than all MBTs of their BR, no exception.
None of these are OP.
Slap a russian flag to the a4e and you’ll see 10 threads show up. Also they need to start perma banning AI posts but it will be ironic
At practical distances the glide slope and effective range of AGM-62 and KAB500 are identical
the only advantage AGM-62 has is if you’re slow and really far away
attacking from these distances where the reduced range of kab500 will actually make a difference is going to miss pretty much all targets since the bombs dont track things until 3km distance and you only need to move a little to get out of their lock cone
Well there is squadron A4E that throws walleyes at 9.3
Since unlike previous posts I have seen on the topic you do actually acknowledge the long standing (about 6 years) A-4E issue, so I will forgo the usual mockery of “the boot is on the other foot” and actually respond seriously.
First off it was already a bit ridiculous the the Israeli A-4E was the same BR as the USA as it gets an extra GBU, it’s walleyes are ERs with better glide range and doesn’t have to sacrifice its AAMs either.
With current compression the Yak-130 is a reasonable side grade to the Israeli A-4E, it gets a better FM and 1 extra GBU (with worse glide range than even regular walleyes) at the cost of RWR and CMs.
Not true, as side from the Type 93 with it’s P/C seeker mode you can still preflare to keep the seeker from getting it’s initial lock, and not all IR SAMS have IRCCM and chaff interferes with SPAAGs track lock which throws the lead indicator off.
Making something OP but premium is NOT how you balance vehicles, and the A-4 air frame is decent, you just have to be gentle with the wings.
2 points:
Then there is also the TT Ayit at 10.0 with 3x Mavericks 2x Walleyes and 2x Shifir/AIM-9Ds a better A2G load out with than the Hawk 200s and only really lacking the all aspect IR missiles.
So if we assume the Hawks are appropriately BRed I would suggest the Ayit goes up to either 10.7 or 10.3, depending on how important people thing the IR missiles are and work the rest down from there, the Yak-130 should stay the same BR as the Israeli A-4E unless they get their CM pods.
I would go:
Ayit: 10.7
Hunter F.58/ Yak-130 with CM pods: 10.3
Yak-130 without CM pods/ Israeli A-4E: 10.0
USA A-4E: 9.7
At least write it by yourself
Theres an ultimate counter to this. It is called the W key
Depends, SPAAGs are usually only effective under 1.5 KM, well within track lock range, of course the counter to that is to park near a house or rock they you can drive behind to break the lock.
I used to fly the A-4E over the battle at 3-4km and drop straight down on top of people to prevent that but the increase in the amounts of IR SAM SPAAs has made that more risky… not to mention gaijin insisting that every match needs 80+% cloud cover.
I love how the same USSR mains comes to every thread discussing their nation balancing and always are against XD ALWAYS
Always funny to think about.
And You can eaisly deal with them.
As opposed to the same USA/ Israel mains that have defended the A-4E for 6+ years now and still think ONLY the Yak-130 should go up?
Please don’t confuse those of use saying that the Yak and the Israeli A-4E should be the same BR with us claiming the 9.3 is the appropriate BR that they should be at.
I personally think the A-4E(I) and yak-130 should move up 2 BR steps and the A-4E(US) up one.
love being forced to use this useless thing against the Yak-130 when it doesn´t even have a radar or thermals and only 35° of elevation with max 12 missiles including the ammo box.
This.
Same people doesnt see anything wrong , or broken until USSR get’s something similiar, and then it is complete bias, and stil forgetting what other nations had for years before on same and lower br. :D
stinger has a lock range of 6km while kab500 lock range is around 3km
Ayit also has CCIP rocket computer, so you can always bring a few Zunis on top of everything else and throw those out. Unlike the other A-4s which only have bomb CCRP.
I’d say Hunter 58 is fine at 9.7, it’s often the only viable counter to the hordes of M247s, PGZ09s, Rapiers, and ZSU-23-4M4s since it can actually avoid their fire. It’s strong at doing that but the downside is that you only get two Mavericks and taking them completely replaces your air to air missiles.
I’m seeing Yak-130s, whenever they’re on my team, get completely clubbed by M247s especially.
You can point lock at around 10. Sure, won’t get you 100% of kills, but most SPAA players are stationary.
Since rearming is both free and infinitely available, there is no reason for you to get closer.
That’s some OP gameplay right there.
I mean it works, why even try and risk getting closer when you get 3/4 kills usually?