YAK-1 is just straight OP at 2.3 why is it still 2.3

Yak 9 that cant even turnfight a Bf 109 sits at 3.0, correct.

them have lower BR because they are one of the least fast planes at the rank. They turnfight well but are not best planes out there tho.

Well, does it need to?

It has a nose mounted Berezin and a ShVAK so a much more effective armament.

It can quite easily hit enemies that the Bf 109 wouldn’t be able to hit and it carries more ammo as the Bf 109 only has 60rds per gun.

Bf 109 has better climb and turn but not by much.

Bf 109s and Spitfires also overheat very easily.

Pretty sure the Yak has better energy retention and can run from both.

So in that sense the Yak-9 is more effective against lower BR opponents because the performance is good enough while the armament is practically unmatched.

A P-39 might outperform it but it lacks the lethal armament to make the same impact.

1 Like

Yak 9p is fine too

I was talking about Yaks with 20 mm ShVaks - it looks like that i was not precise enough😉

Again, the 20 mm makes the difference, that’s also why i excluded the Yak-3P at 5.0. These 37 or 45 mm versions are not relevant in this context.

Yeah - the 20 mm makes the difference👍

I am not sure if you got the underlying message:

The OP damage output of a single centralized 20mm is especially for average players a massive advantage - rookie players prefer head-ons and the 20 mm ShVak is extremely easy to aim.

So whilst experienced players can avoid head-ons - the numbers game in every Air RB match is highly affected by the outcome of these head-ons.

In addition to that: The FM of certain USSR fighters looks way more suited to be flown with Mouse aim (with instructor) as the instructor limits aircraft from other nations way more.

The term “crazily better” is highly subjective.

Experienced players can play around the known weaknesses of B-239s or Ki-43s & Ki-44s which are mainly centered around top speed at various altitudes - but the teamfights of less experienced teammates on both teams are often decided in plain stupid head-ons in which the 20 mm Shvak is able to kill these adversaries with a single hit.

So i recommend to look at this topic from a way more holistic pov: Most players are way less experienced than you and the justification of the low BRs vanished with the ShVak buff.

1 Like

I remembered this thread as i had today a very long fight with a 2.3 Yak-1 in a 3.3 F6F-5.

I stated earlier in this thread:

This means that the AoA restrictions of fighters using mouse aim & instructor are often detrimental for actual turn performance., but some fighters are allowed to have quite impressive agility and turn even with mouse aim and instructor (like Yaks) whilst others have a severe disadvantage with that.

So if two players using mouse aim meet each other the plane with less AoA limitations will win a turnfight.

In this replay (skip to ~ 16 minutes):

Gaijin Entertainment - Single Sign On

…you see met getting caught low and slow in my Hellcat.

The fellow Yak-1 player could not use his superior Power-to-Weight ratio and his energy advantage - he saw a Hellcat as easy prey and started a low alt turnfight. Without the AoA limitations of the instructor (i use a HOTAS and fly with disabled instructor) the Hellcat is able to outturn any Yak - including Yak-3s.

I had no ammo 😎, reversed his dive attack and planted my Hellcat at his six - from ~ 17:00 until ~ 21:30 - he died as he killed his engine in his attempts to get away from me. The replay is available until tomorrow morning - as soon as the new update is released older replays won’t work.

Because it is a Russian plane, if it were an Italian plane they would have immediately placed it at BR 3.0

2 Likes