It’s 37mm Ostwind 2 firing M-geschoss with 108g of TNT.
And that’s assuming it even fuses, because plywood bug 2.0.
The random (not so random, really, hit A7M1 twice in one battle and both times it did nothing, hit Bf 109 F4 3 times and it did nothing, I posted videos in this forum a few times already) super low damage bug applies to all aircraft, but 9K is notoriously hard to hit and additionaly protected by plywood bug 2.0.
Yak-9K can take 30mm HVAP and 1 30mm M-geschoss to the same wingtip and it stays there. Bf 109 F4 loses the wingtip from.37mm but still flies fairly OK, lmao.
Currently Yaks are not only excellent performers with great maneuvrability at almost any speed, but also have so much armanent (2 Shvaks will blow Ta-152H outnof existence with 1 suoer short click) it’s ridiculous. Meanwhile Fw 190 A4 is 4.0 because “it has a lot of guns”, LMAO
A lot of people talk about Shvak being godlike nowadays.
This is something that happened to me twice in the match. Killed Bf 109 F4 like 30s before that with single shell too.
And other videos:
Quite a bit worse than Shvak, don’t you think?
I also have screenshots where Yak-3 casually tanked 2x MK108 M-geschoss with some superficial wing damage.
Again, quite a downgrade compared to Shvak 1-shotting Bf 109 G6.
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All I had onboard was night fighter’s belt MK108 as I used up all my 20.m ammo trying to kill Object 211 (LOL, thank you Gaijin for artificially nerfing 20mm APHE) and I hit him twice to the same wing. Only when I landed 3rd shell something actually happened, at least it was spectacular.
ah i heard that the Ostwind 2 nowadays has a bug that makes him undamage
But i can clearly say its a lie as i got oneshotted lately on Mustang and yak-9K with Ostwind 2
is there any Yak with 2x20 SHVAK? Yak 9s fly with 1x12.7 1x20 and 3s fly 2x12.7 1x20 :/
yhem yaks with 2x20 have B-20 cannons
Yaks always were great dogfighters
6 20mils are great tho
ill consider flying yak 3 for a bit on the weekends. Im curious if anything changed so much in just one patch
i mean it could be any belt, tho i agree i hear many people say them Ostwind shots deal bad damage nowadays. Tho i got easully oneshotted with it several times with Mustang, THunderbolt and Yak 9K last week
i had questions to their damage as soon as i got the Shwalbe…
Best Yaks have 2x20mm.
3U and VK.
But so does 9P and 9UT unless 9UT goes for 45mm, then only 1 20mm remains.
I mean, the gun in some cases may not be “Shvak”, but fires the same ammo with almost same ROF, so, who cares.
And it’s been like that ever since Real Sh*tter 3.0 woth short break caused by cannon bug.
If you haven’t noticed, well, I’ve been making posts about 20mm 1-shotting stuff for years.
ah thats quite a problem here!
The swedish AKAN mgs that are basically Brownings deal much better damage. Same with ADENs of sweden. So its only natural
Dude, Shvak and B20 deal exact same damage as they share ammo and muzzle velocity. And Shvak is absolutely 1-shotting people left and right, just like B20.
Swedish AKAN uses different ammo. And 12.7mm variant without HE bullet is pretty much dogpoop. They only work because they are usually nose-mounted. But nose mihnted Brownings are just as good/bad (compared to single Shvak, 4 Brownings even in the nose are a joke).
I guess you’re now gaslighting yourself.
But you won’t win this argument. Because you see, I have played Soviet aircraft for the last 12 years. I’ve seen their ups and downs.
Shvak and B20 deal the same damage and always did.
Shvak and B20 have been 1-shotting aircraft for years ever since real sh*tter 3.0, though they are slightly less reliable than Type 99 Mk2 which I deliberately fired in single shot to laugh at P-47s losing wings and tails.
What is actually important is being nose mounted in case of 21 series, which makes them hit around the same spot. B-239 BTW has 4 MGs and deals great damage.
Why? Because you can keep people in the sights so easily you land looong bursts, and when 30 12.7mm bullets hit you in WT, you die. IRL if they don’t hit the engine or you, you may actually be kinda fine.
so shvak cannons are insane right now if you do the math the SHVAK has A explosive mass of around 5grams of TNT while Mg151 has explosive mass of 19-21Grams of filler but for some reason in game right now the shvak does 3X more damage and does damage more consistently than any other cannon
hispanos and COLTs do similar damage but no where near as consistantly as the shvaks do
It’s also crazy how the Yak-9T is 4.0 while the Yak-9 and Yak-1B are 3.0.
Previously the damage of ShVAKs was very poor so the 37mm was huge difference in killing power.
But now a single ShVAK is a much better plane killer than the NS-37, fighter or bomber.
Previouly I would run default belt for 50% API but now I just use the tracer belt because HE is just straight up better at killing planes.
What’s funny is that Mineshells deal practically no damage to engines, so you actually want like 33-50% AP, which you only get when using stealth belt, which also negates the velocity bug for Mineshellls.
While using MG 151/20, quite a lot of my kills were with the APHE and API.
One would think that at least Gaijin would fix a game breaking plywood bug 2.0 by now. A bug they reintroduced themselves after they fixed it PARTIALLY by adjusting 20mm M-geschoss fuse sensitivity to be in line with the rest of 20mm.
But no, the bug is going strong for 7 months now. And to fix it all Gaijin has to do is to set plywood effective thickness to like, you know, same value as dural and copy-paste it for like few dozen planes.
Few hours of working if somebody does it 100% manually LOL.
It’s kinda clear Gaijin is way past fixing anything WW2 related. They are happy to watch WW2 gameplay slowly degenerate into oblivion due to bugs and horrible game balancing decisions.
yes, because they are Brownings and them Shred through. Tho the Swedish 13.2s are still much superior in terms of damage.
i myself never look at the filler as the damage is likely to be inconsistent anyway. Them Tiger 105s shots have much more explosives than the 88mm but usually deal same to less damage. Same with the, for example, Maus 128/88 and 128 shots.
Regularly the damage is inconsistent so i usually never look at the mass, preferring to try them in battle to see.
Last time i used ShVAK it was ITP-M1 and the planes i hit survived pretty well. But not consistent as the oneshots were also a thing.
i know it pretty well, and i also know that USSR gets worst things around. The USSR is the onluy nation that needs to grind NVD + Thermals (or it was some time ago at least, for about a decade), its the only nation that has T-72 UFP buff “Otrazheniye” NOT BUILD IN BY DEFAULT, it has closely worst top tier tank lineup when there IS an opportunity to make better lineups, it also has no “tender” vehicles added, ect ect.
Even the theme about T-34s being higher than Shermans and Panzer IVs exists. And its crazy.
At least in terms of grounds, USSR is likely least favourite of gaijin. At least in comparisson with other “mains”.
Yes, because of HE bullet. And HE bullets are hard hitters because real sh*tter 3.0 basically reduces the real life differences between shells. 12.7mm HE bullet is not that far from 20mm FI-T, which is fairly close to 23mm, and 25mm is basically equal power as 37mm. Which is of course ridiculously wrong.
88L71 deals less damage. But it’s not super obvious. But do some protection analysis tests and you’ll see.
Similar story with Soviet 85mm vs Pzgr 39 8.8L56 - 85mm deals more damage, but usually either will 1-shot the target. Of course then there’s the Pzgr 8.8 nuke shell…
Basically all Yaks (except Yak-3P) are severely undertiered - and this is no accident, that is on purpose. Idc about Ground RB or other modes - this thread deals with Air RB at prop BRs.
If you invest some time in forum research you find countless threads dealing with op Yaks and ShVaks - and USSR props in general. It boils down that the combination of too low BRs, overpowered damage output and the implemented FMs allows way too easy kills for plain average players. And as soon kills become too easy it is logical that you see criticism in this forum.
i mean i dont see criticism for B-239s, Hayabusa, or any other CRAZILLY BETTER than Yak 1 plane. Ones much more maneuverable and same fast, with propper armanment making kills easy af. I dont see any criticism for Bf 109 E which is crazilly good. J9 which has 2x13.2 with OP damaging HEs is also one of the easiest planes to get kills, and Morko-Morane is as crazy as Yak 1. But nah hell yak is op because…
While the cannon is busted, the flight performance is average.
I think ALL Yaks being severly undertiered is an exaggeration by him, because the Yak-9T certainly isn’t when the Yak-9 with a now arguebly better cannon is sits at 3.0.
But in general a lot of them are quite undertiered, since they only had a lower BR because how bad the 20mm cannons performed, which isn’t the case anymore.
