So far in the game, the PL-8/Python 3 is easier to capture flares than the PL-5B due to its larger seeker instantaneous field of view. It does not have similar performance to the R-73 or AIM-9M.
Moreover, when performing tail pursuit shooting at low altitude, the range of PL-8/Python 3 is slightly lower than that of PL-5B (2.9km vs. 2.7km at sea level). I think this is a weapon with similar performance to the AIM-9L in the game. It has more powerful maneuverability than the AIM-9L, but has weaker anti-jamming capabilities. Overall, it is inferior to the AIM-9M, R-73 and Matra R550 Magic II. The most successful way to use this weapon is to launch the missile from high above the target. The missile will hit the enemy aircraft with a larger tracking ratio, which will make it less likely to capture the flares.
Well then depending on how the seeker is in the PL-5C, it may very well be superior too the PL-8 in a funny twist. Still holding out hope we get too see missles such as the PL-5EII and PL-9’s soon
Yes. In addition, the improved PL-8B may also be worth considering. It has a simple anti-jamming mechanism and allows the seeker to identify flares.
Hmm it may just be limited all aspect like the r60, i HOPE its the aim9L pl8 seeker range. Definitely no chance of irccm on it though as that would be the pl5e/eii
Yeah, pl8 has better delta v but in practice pl5 is capable of extremely long range shots even after the drag changes to missiles. I always preferred pl5s to the pl8. Im guessing the pl8 is really draggy because it doesn’t like going very far low altitude and its an absolute chonker of a missile
Is JH-7 going to get LS-6?
Yeah the magics have the same problem, with the Finn’s causing too much drag on them and reducing their range
crazy we aren’t getting pl8a which is just pl8 with a domestic seeker that should use the inner fov trick like r73 and magic 2
Yeah, I guess there just holding out till a new Chinese fighter jet for those kind of missles. But tbh I feel like the JH-7A could get PL-8A or even B since it’s already at 11.7 with most likely mid flight prefromance and no radar missles. And ofc only two PL-8’s at that
It might be the inverse, that AIM-9 derivatives have too little drag. It’s always seemed off to me that a canard design stabilized in roll by rollerons and with fairly large control surfaces coasts so well
The AIM-9L range is correct, the Magic missile’s range is incorrect. Simple matter of bug reporting, which has already been done internally I’ve been told. Should be fixed after December update I hope.
Guess I just generally underestimate how well dogfight missiles coast, ty for the correction. R-60’s kinematics have poisoned my brain lol
R-60 is very unique, small, short, and lightweight… drag has more effect on it. Longer and heavier missiles are less effected by loss of speed when coasting it seems.
Welll unfortunately it seems jh7a is going to be a lukewarm addition in both air and ground role with major munitions missing. Typical Chinese strike aircraft in wt. f16 meanwhile outperforms jh7a in BOTH AIR AND GROUND. Is pl8a or pl5e too much to ask for
Yeah, nowadays the R-60 feels like a falling leaf once the rocket motor is gone. Oh well, atleast it’s not an SRAAM, and atleast I don’t have too deal with either anymore now that I’m grinding China
Hopefully it’s one of those vehicles we’re it gets continuously buffed over time, as it has a lot of potential, and I’m still holding out hope that maybe the Kh-29 can make it into the loadouts sooner than later…
Is there issue link about Magic range
Smin1080p replied PL5-C is all respect seeker
my blood is already boiling knowing how the KD-88 and/or KH-29Ts are not making it into the game, idk why GJ does not add them despite multiple sources around the internet stating that it is indeed capable of fielding such missiles. Do they really need an official flight manual or any other extremely hard to obtain documents? Are they willing to risk another REDACTED leak?
I am a bit mad that the issue The difference between JH7A’s LS & GB series laser guided bomb got rejected. I guess we need better sources.
Does anyone have a copy of the “Manuals of Defense Products”, the one that covers this photo?
Worst case scenario, we would have to wait a whole year and let someone go visit the Zhuhai Airshow in 2024 to get another manual.