Xi'an JH-7, History, Performance & Discussion

  1. There are several other AAMs the JH-7A could receive, namely PL-12 & PL-17, + other variants of the PL-5 & PL-8
  2. There is very little evidence the JH-7A can field PL-11. Unlike any of the above missiles, there is very little in the way of literature or visual confirmation to prove such claims. In fact, there is a sizeable chance that the plane entirely lacks the capability for the type. While the J-10A also possesses a JL10 radar & is PL-11 capable, that doesn’t necessarily translate to the JH-7A. It is highly likely that, much like the J-8F currently ingame- the JH-7A’s JL10 lacks the capacity for terminal SARH guidance. Considering the rough time table of the JH-7A, it stands to reason that they would not attempt to integrate a prior gen AAM. Unless it can be definitively proven, I wouldn’t count on any Fox-1s, whether PL-11 or R-27R.
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R-27 series, unlike PL-11 does not require CW transmitter. It is always guided on a form of continuous wave- “interrupted” waveform. MiG-29 and other aircraft that fire R-27R have no dedicated CW transmission device.

It does a pulse of guidance, followed by a pulse of mid-course update transmissions from the STT lock. Requires STT for mid-course updates, at least on MiG-29.

In any case, they would not have retrofit PL-11 capability to JH-7A. It would be totally redundant and pointless.

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You are correct, I simply threw R-27 in there without thinking about it. That being said, I don’t think that will ever come to the JH-7A, chiefly because I don’t think it’s ever been fit to the platform.
I have much more interest in the PL-17 being added, while there isn’t very much info on it, the idea of an unflare-able lance that can spear targets from ridiculous ranges seems like fun, even if it would force the plane to 12.3.

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Yeah, I see a lot of people jumping too conclusions already, even tho it seems pretty obvious that what we saw was just a glimpse of its development in the files. I’m still surprised something like this can fly under the radar in the files until last minute basically

JH-7A of PLAN North Sea Fleet Aviation launching PL-11 SAHM.
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Source: 北海舰队航空兵演练超视距引导突击等高难课目 (http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2009-01-10/1307538257.html) which cited 解放军报
This is from 2009.


Update: Nevermind… It’s a photoshop.
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I think all J-7Gs use that radar.Our F-7BGIs also use that radar.
But is SY-80 same as JL-10A?

Intresting plane. I love that. I hope for the JH7A get PL8 or PL9 and many guided ground attack things.

Both sy80 and jl10a are pulse Doppler radars, and jl10a inherited the successful technology of sy80 when developing. As far as I know, they both belong to the “神鹰” series, but they are not the same radar. sy80 is only used in j7 but not in JH7A.

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Current datamined loadouts for JH-7A

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Looks like JL-10GJ is same as SY-80.Sorry I mixed up JL-10GJ with JL-10A

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Are u kidding? Check what i have showed and tell me whether the JL-10A radar can fire PL11 or not

The one on the right is a console, not the radar itself. It can be used for both sy80 and jl10, and only the one on the left is sy80.

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Wingtip pylons support up to 100kg, PL-8 is 115~ kg.

No. The radar used by JH-7 is called SY-232H, a kind of monopulse radar. JL-10A was miniaturized into JL-10AG or let’s say, JL-10G, for J-7G and J-7L. Later the SY-80 came out as an export type of JL-10G.

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The radar of JH-7A is JL-10A. During the development, the CWI function was added to fire Aspide.

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Hello MiG_23M, I really appreciate for the effort you have made for J-8F’s radar and PL12.
If you do not understand Chinese, please let me translate some sentences.
The functional state of the radar has a development process:
the JL-10 radar in 1990 has four basic states: VS, HRWS-STT, MRWS-STT, LRWS-STT;
The JL-10 A (prototype C) in 1995 added 4 states: CWI, TWS, GM, DBS;
The JL-10 A (prototype S) in 1997 with six additional states: ACM, AGR, SEA, BCN, BIT, WS.

——sentences from 《 我国第一部脉冲多普勒雷达研制历程》, author of which are 朱克昕 杨 春.

CWI means ‘Continuous Wave Illuminator’. In 1991, when they began development of the new PD radar (JL-10A), the main points of the initial idea included crosslinking with CWI so that Aspide could be fired.

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Compare the pictures above, I believe the missile carried by JH-7A is a variant of Kh-29T. As is known to all PLAAF bought quite a few Kh-29Ts as one of the supporting equipment for Su-30MKK.

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So still less advanced than some of the Chinese missles it can receive, as I believe many of them have a seeker capable of using thermal imaging too find target contrast

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I mean, the F-16C is arguably one of the best CAS planes in game right now so they have no place too cry

By the way, I haven’t seen it mentioned yet, but I’m assuming the JH-7A has a very modern RWR?

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