Wow thanks gaijin, i love having a completely useless plane!

Played 15 damn matches since getting this thing thing, and its genuinely useless. Missiles refuse to do anything, its speed is completely useless, it can’t use its main benefit of the climb rate because stock the engine and everything sucks

I genuinely have not killed a SINGLE plane. I don’t get it. its impossible.

You go High? You get picked off by Radar missiles or just can’t find anything to fight, Or when you do find something to boom and zoom, your missiles lose lock after 5 seconds, and the guns could miss a B-52 at 100m.

You go low? And you just a sitting duck to anything that can turn, or has anything above a Aim-9B.

Whats the POINT? How are you supposed to play this thing stock?

play like ur an f104

Except the missiles are nowhere near as good as the F-104s, nor the guns, and its slower.

especially stock.

And its impossible to not be stock because you physically can’t KILL ANYTHING.

image what do you mean miss B-52 🙀😭???
B-52 size of mr snail basement and the B-52 is airfield size.

Something about the ADENs on the Lighting makes them insultingly inaccurate.

Genuinely these things couldn’t hit the Broadside of the Bismarck.

Bro calls the plane that is better than the F-104A useless.

Yeah, no wonder you are struggle, you are stock… Stock grinds are meant to suck so you spend GE. That is Gaijin entire business model.

Spaded Lightning F6 or Lightning F53. Decent aircraft, especially when you can go B52 hunting.

Ive gotten 3-4 kills in a match with the Ligtning more than a few times recently, just annoyign the BRs are bit overally compressed.

ADENs are always hard to aim, I think the issue is the speed differential you are usualyl dealing with. Hawk, Harrier, Even Jag, you are way closer to the targets speed.

Stock aircraft, it is. Slower, accelerates worse, and a way harder to use gun.

I haven’t seen a single B52 in my 15 matches, its all been full 10.3 uptiers.

You’re acting like this thing is 9.7

And even vs 10.0/10.3s its a chore to play. Heck, most 9.7 Mig-21s will easily beat you in every respect, and kinematically defeating a 9G from something like a Harrier is really hard. Even when spaded. Compression even at 9.3 is bad.

Airframe is carried by its flat line speed, and a pair of Red Tops. Which take great care to use.

But OP has neither, because he’s stock. Though equally, shouldnt be complaining about any vehicle until at least 70% of mods are unlocked

I think complaining about a vehicle genuinely being impossible to use until you get it spaded is a genuine concern.

Atleast with tanks you can still DO something even stock.

Eh… I can think of way worse aircraft to spade than the Lightning F6, I remember the Jag GR1 being really really bad, so you’ve got that to look forward too soon I guess.

But I cant really think of a single vehicle that I would consider “easy” to stock grind, maybe one of the Tonkas thanks to getitng Chaff stock, but still not easy, just easier.

Stock grinds are designed to suck. Period. That is their entire point, once spaded, you never look at mods ever again 99.99% of the time. The point is the grind.

Look for slow things, A-4s or F-86s, keep an eye out for B-52 and Tu-95s and IL-20s. Worse case scenario go for AI aircraft or even ground targets.

I generally sit around 20k ft and dont have much of an issue, then just dive down onto distracted targets. Firestreaks are very short ranged, but work when you respect their limitations, 1-1.5km max and ideally something a bit energy trapped. Gets a lot better when you get Red Tops. (Fire about 2.5km, with a bit of a lead and you’ll kill anything distracted or energy trapped). They are even all-aspect vs B-52s and Tu-95s

I already have the Jag, and honestly it wasn’t AS BAD as the Lighting.

You’ll have to support your teammates while you’re starting out the module grind.

Uninstall.

lightning is good what are you on about

firestreak is uncaged and pulls more than 9B

I’d suggest to just skip it