Would you see in game a newer American F-16?

Guys, I have an idea, as we saw Jas 39D as a squadron vehicle, a underpowered version of the Jas 39C, why we can’t grind a “free” F-16C? for example the C block 30, one of the best f-16s in terms of dogfight at 13.7, some changes from block 50? The engine, F110-GE-100 Vs the F110-GE-129, the radar is slightly downgraded v1 Vs v5 and it has only conventional bombs, and in general slightly worse avionics.

With this introduction we can add aim 120C-5 to the F-16 CM and only AIM-120A/B for the Block 30.

Guys do you want to see it in game?

At the end of the day, guys do you wanna see f16C block 30 at 13.7-13.3 as a tech tree/ squadron vehicle? after this 24 replies.

  • Do you want to see as a squadron / tech tree vehicle F-16C block 30 at 13.7-13.3?
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I really want the block 30. Although it would be a sidegrade at best, it could be a squadron vehicle.

next update USA squadron…

Could the U.S. get a export version of its F-16V Block 70?

should be in USA tree rn idk why Taiwan and China gets it in game first like turkey or something for USA as a squadron vehicle

Cause it would add nothing to the US tree since it is straight up worse than the PoBit

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but to me at 13.7 - 13.3 it could be a monster the block 30

I was referring to the “F-16V” block72

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okk

cough cough F-16XL which will come this year

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I wonder how it’ll stack up against the f2 for the best f16, honestly I can’t wait for the f2 super kai since it was passed and Japan literally has no options until the f15jsi gets further along in development. (which should be comparable to the f15c ge so don’t get your hopes up)

*worse for ARB but better in a dogfight

they could either give us a initial block 30, which would’ve been a F-16C block 50 with roughly 500-800lbfs less, No JDAMs or LJDAMs, or GBU-39s/53s, so it would be what the F-16C was when in the dev server/stream back in 2023,
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or a block 40 F-16C with the War hud, which was upgraded to hold more/heavier bombs than the block 30, Night vision, GPS integration, as well as updated RWR, and EW

or if we want to go the theoretical rout, we could do the (again theoretical) F-16X block 80, which in all sense of the game would be a F-16CM POBIT but with IVEWS, of which is for all extensive purposes is the EPAWSS system but on F-16s (what we got on the POBIT in game), the F110-GE-132 engine which produces 32,500 pounds of thrust vs the 29,000 on the POBIT an AN/APG-85 (what’s mounted on F-35s), although the missile count wound not increase, as to my knowledge the MLRM racks haven’t been cleared for service on the F-16s yet or never will to my knowledge (so far) with full hosing for conformal fuel tanks

@Agent_Misso I guess might be two-seat F-16 Block 32 or Block 42

No, the block 72 FM is the same as the F-16A block15 which is subpar.

The pobit is currently the best F-16 FM in sustained turn rate, and might be the best F-16 FM for dogfighting overall, or maybe tied to the F-16A which has less sustained but better instantaneous turn.

The engine on the pobit/sufa produces more thrust at low speeds than the one in the F-16C block50 (but less at high speeds), so unless you are rating at 800kph+ the pobit will handle better because it has slightly more thrust and less weight.

no both F16A and F16I are better in rate

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the F16V (and other ADF FMs) has a significantly better ITR, and negative SEP lines to the extent where if both played by equally skilled players they will easily win well before the slight advantage in rate comes into play

and F16A and F16I FMs just beat it in everything

i hope they add ultimate dogfight F-16, block 30 with GE-132 engine

I hope so too, but doubt it will come anytime soon

theres nothing really special about it other than being really good at dogfighting. M-scan radar, regular old AIM-120 and AIM-9M

it is just a rocket ship F-16

F-16A block10 is worse than the F-16C block50 in sustained turn and as such, also worse than the pobit/sufa.

F-16 block15 has the worst sustained turn of all F-16s after the F-16D.

F-16I sufa is almost the same as the pobit regarding low speed FM, but a bit more drag and just a little extra weight when considering the extra pilot, even though its dry weight is a tiny bit less than the pobit it ends up higher.

The F-16A block10 is great, but the ADF is just not on the same level and ends up being noticeably worse, even with the slightly better instantaneous turn rate, I would argue its below the block50, and naturally the pobit/sufa too.

Obviously, if both players go into a 1C fight right away, the block15 will get an advantage in the beginning. In the 2C its about on the same level as the F-16C block40 or worse. The block10 might or might not, be able to force the 1C against the block52, but with the ADF it will be much harder.