Weird, its in your top 10 most played ground vehicles tho… 🤣
Apart from the fact that it’s not in my top 10 most played vehicles… go to the ophthalmologist and get your eyes checked 👀😎, or better yet do everyone a favour and avoid telling falsehoods.
Secondly, it sits at position 13 in my most played vehicles, and considering the fact that it was at BR 5.0 some time ago, and was literally the only SPAA that Italy could field in combat formations at BR: (4.7 - 5.0 - 6.3 - 6.7) it should have been used more often, but instead it is only in position 13 despite being in 4 different combat formations, and this I assure you is a problem that all Italian players had; they used R3 in these combat formations (4.7 - 5.0 - 6.3 - 6.7) not because it is an extremely OP vehicle as you claim. … But because it is literally the only SPAA available for those combat formations that you could play with on those combat formations (4,7 - 5,0 - 6,3 - 6,7) and get decent results, in levels 6,3 and 6,7 it became difficult to get good results, but you used it anyway because R3 was literally the only vehicle available to use in that BR, if not you had to enter the game without a SPAA vehicle to use in combat.
This problem was caused by the developers not having touched the Italian Rank IV for over 4 years, which is in absolute need of new SPAA vehicles.
That’s why R3 is so used by Italian players even if in my case it is undeniable that I used it very little since I used it in 4 different combat formations, but it only stands in position 13 of my most played vehicles.
But now it sits at BR 5.7 and the situation has become much worse as Italy has now found itself with no SPAA vehicles to have on the battlefield in BR 4.7 and 5.0.
R3 now standing at BR 5.7 can only be used in BR 6.3 or 6.7 but remains a SPAA outclassed by all the SPAA vehicles of other nations standing at BR 6.3.
Here is a vehicle that stands at BR 6.3, but is much better than the R3: M53/59
And this is just one example, there are many more examples, so whoever uses the R3 in 6.3 or 6.7 combat formations will always be playing in extremely difficult mode, and there is no point in denying this.
The R3 keeps going up because the R3 is undertiered and an incredibly strong vehicle.
The only reason R3 keeps going up is partly the fault of incompetent people who hate R3 and come to the forums to complain about things they don’t know.
While, it’s partly the fault of the developers: Not to mention that as I’ve said before it is literally the only Italian SPAA vehicle that can be used in 4 different combat formations, this is because we don’t have SPAA vehicles and the developers simply refuse to add new SPAA vehicles for Italy to BR 6.3 Rank IV (Area of the Italian technology tree, untouched for more than 4 years), where Italy needs them most.
The developers much prefer to wait for people in desperation to use the only available SPAA vehicle to be used in those BRs (4.7 - 5.0 - 6.3 - 6.7) and then take it to a higher BR, not because it deserves it, but because it avoids adding a new Italian vehicle for BR 6.3 to Rank IV, and so they can concentrate on a new Russian OP vehicle to be implemented in the game… which as it happens, THEY DID!!! They have added a new Russian vehicle and R3 is now at BR 5.7, now Italy no longer has SPAAs available for 4.7 or 5.0 combat formations, and this is an inescapable truth.
And I can put my hands on fire, on the fact it that the next vehicles the developers will implement will be more Russian OP vehicles, while Italy will get no SPAA vehicles in BR 6.3 Rank IV. And I’m sure they will find another excuse to further raise the BR of another Italian vehicle so that it can be used as a stopgap to avoid adding new SPAA vehicles.
What “inescapable proof”
To summarise: Anyone who has read the entire discussion from the beginning can see that there is you shouting to the four winds that: "R3 is an OP vehicle despite being a SPAA is stronger than the Wiesel which is a light tank and must be at BR 7.0 "
This is bullshit, and everyone told you you were wrong, only those who hate R3 with the intensity of a hundred suns are backing you up, in fact there are only 2 of you who keep talking nonsense everyone else has already replied to you and said you are talking nonsense.
And at the risk of being repetitive but in the right that was my reply:
"What you say makes no sense.
Wiesel deserves to be at BR 7.0
Wiesel:
** Scouting ability. Ability that causes an increase in BR*
** Thermals. Ability that causes an increase in BR*
** Speed.*
** Small size, it is a much smaller vehicle than the R3. Wiesel can hide completely using the bush, R3 cannot.*
** APDS ammunition belt. R3 doesn’t have this ammunition belt*
** Angled armour better than R3, In the game, it happened more than once that the Wiesel managed to bounce HEAT shells, thanks to its angled armour.*R3 does not deserve to be on the same level as the Wiesel.
R3:
** SPAA does not have the ability to scout.*
** no Thermals*
** Ammunition belt AP. AP of the R3 has less penetration than the Wiesel’s APDS.*
** Speed, the only positive feature*
** It has no stabiliser because the developers nerfed it."*Players should simply stop hating R3 and leave it at 5.0 if it remains a SPAA, whereas if the developers intend to turn it into a light vehicle then it may well reach BR 6.3 but it cannot reach the same BR as the Wiesel, for obvious reasons, the Wiesel has thermals."
You started saying “R3 has to be at BR 7.3 if it would become a reconnaissance vehicle”, and again I told you the reasons why it can’t be at 7.3, but at most at 6.3 even though I’m sure they will move it to 6.7, because Italian players are much better at playing with shitty vehicles than all the other players on this game.
That was my answer:
With a reply like that you have only proved that you are a Troll.
Go reread my posts, I never said R3 should go back to BR 3.3, where everyone knows it was broken.
But it is equally true that as a SPAA it was totally balanced at BR 5.0 , it is useless to deny this fact, which you and your friend are doing.
The only ones complaining were the leading German fanboys who did not want to recognise all the qualities that the Wiesel wagon had over the R3.
Anyone with a brain knows that Wiesel being a light tank is better than the R3 SPAA we have in the game at the moment.And even if you make R3 into a light vehicle, R3 will never reach BR 7.0 for obvious reasons:
R3 has no thermals, which the Wiesel does, and having thermals means an increase in BR.
And to answer your question, “How is R3 worse than the new Type 87?”Elementary Chris… The Type 87 RCV (P) has smokescreens a necessary not to say essential quality for high levels, so here’s some advice you should follow to the letter before talking nonsense, do everyone a favour and learn how to play the game, thanks.
The Wiesel 1A4 doesnt have smoke screens, neither do many other vehicles?
You are such a wooden head, the Wiesel 1A4 has thermals, several people have already told you that on this forum.
Saying you’re right over and over without any real evidence doesnt make you right m8. You should probably take your own advice, play a few other nations aside from Italy, and get some more games under your belt before you go around acting like you’re the worlds best WT player 🤡
Troll behaviour🤡, useless to give you a reply, I do not stoop to your level.
And with that I would say let’s end the conversation here, the only thing you are looking for is a fight, and I have already stated the facts, whether you want to accept them or not is up to you.