The mbt70 has better speed, the t72 has better mobility, better armament, better armor.
When they hit you in the chassis you hold on sometimes, but if they penetrate you they hit you in the ammunition and you go boom, if they hit you in the right area of the turret with the APDS of a Leopard 1 of 8.0 your MBT70 goes boom
The penetration of all the tanks you compare them with have at least 400 mm of penetration and more, the M1 Abrams does not even reach 400, the armor of the Leopard 2-T72B is better than that of the Abrams.
I said it in the sense that the 120S is more effective than the 10.7 m1abrams in terms of destruction.
Read everything, better apfsds and stabilizer, the t55a It has good shielding to compensate and also has a stabilizer.
1- I have used it on 9.7 without problems, 2- I have 5 accounts and have given my soul to the snail at extreme levels. Look for an account called GaDeD
Both vehicles are terrifying due to their APDS
It fails due to poor tracking of where to aim given by the radar while the Gepard or ZSU radar are totally reliable.
We agree
My mistake, when I wrote it I had in mind the output BR of the object when it was 10.0, that’s why I put 10.3, I’m glad it’s in 10.7 because I remember finding it in 9.0 and trembling with fear
increase air BRs to 20.0 and ground to 18.0 because mid tier compression is just ridiculous for both modes. i wouldn’t change many vehicles general placement other than things like the K9 thunder (VIDAR) pzh 2000 and all similar SPGs going up drastically.
OBJ 292 and 2s38 would of course go far higher than they currently are. Light scout vehicles like the AML 90 and fox I would push up a tiny bit after decompression (xm800t would be pushed up to what is currently 8.7 as it does better against that BRs paper vehicles and is OP compared to its peers)
until the scimitar is fixed id place it down to the same BR as the tiger 2 as its not very mobile (only just beats out a cromwell on flat ground) and has armour that cant stop 5.56.
ww2 jets would not be seeing korea war or vietnam stuff either. a ME262, meteor or vampire facing late sabres is stupid unfair
Both are at a similar level of quality in my opinion, as is the m60 RISE
I don’t have the Russian Shilka right now, but I do have the Israeli one. I don’t think there will be much change.
The problem is that I didn’t talk about the KPZ70, check the MBT70 and the KPZ70, they seem the same but they are not, they have the same ammunition, but the KPZ70 is superior to the MBT70, the KPZ70 reloads faster and has a better engine.
Source: Do you want videos of even how it fails with helicopters?
I know exactly what I’m saying
It’s weird because any video there is of the M247 doesn’t say anything good about it, you almost always see it as the “weird anti-aircraft”
But there I told you about the m60 RISE, does that seem more similar to the t55A to you?
So you’re telling me that if you have a bad canyon depression you decide to go for the worst place for your tank? I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but if you know you can’t be effective, why would you go there?
Abrams: Almost entirely green
Leopard 2: Only penetrable point? Driver’s zone
I highly doubt it from all the things you’ve said before.
RISE is a bit worse than A1A1 but still better than T-55A.
Who said I’m going there ?
I’m just explaining how a bad gun depression is a con that must be taken into consideration, as it prevents you from doing certain things.
DM23 can’t go through the cheeks and will ricochet off of majority of the UFP.
M774 can go through the entirety of the beak and area around the driver’s port as well.
“one of the best anti-aircraft guns”, its ammunition: I will explode before then, its radar: I will track wrong and give a wrong place to shoot
Ability to destroy tanks, APDs, accurate radar, high rate of fire, AP ammunition equally destructive against ground, mobility of Leopard 1, think about it,the gepard 1a2 is the same gepard 8.3 but with surface-to-air missiles.
So just because you killed them it means they’re somehow on par ?
I don’t think so.
Oh no, one gets ~30mm more flat pen and ~20mm at 60 degrees, that’s a substantial difference don’t you think ?
It’s surely enough for M1 to drop to 10.0 lol.
Since when is it against the rules to have multiple accounts to play with if they are all from consoles and they are not to avoid bans or similar? What you say does not make sense, the same youtuber DollarPlays You have two accounts and one of them is used for your “free to play experience” videos. Is it against the rules to play with multiple accounts? 🤡
LMAO! This only happens if ALL 8.7s move up to 9.0. T-55A fires the worst APFSDS rounds.
Especially when you claim that T-55A is anywhere as good as Leopard A1A1 when Leopard has DM23, fast turret, and fast mobility.
More lmao. Imagine this being the same BR as Gepard while being vastly superior.
There’s physically not enough vehicles in the world for this.
Mathematically 15.0 is possible, and ~16.3 post-Meteor missiles.
The upgraded missile no longer has its smokeless motor.
It had this bug for months, then the last br changes rolled in and lowered it. Makes complete sense for its stats to drop when it has a bug that effectively removes its top missile
We can very easily get more than 3 BR steps out of the entirety of air. I’d wager that 16.0 is possible and very doable, since we can reach 15.0 just by decompressing 12.3+.
We can also get another 1.3+ by just decompressing 7.0-8.0 and 8.0-10.0. Plus, it isn’t the end of the world if something is a bit too decompressed, mostly because that’s never actually happened in the history of WT.
General decompression idea
8.0 Mig-15s and sabres go to 8.7 (they should be 8.3, but that compresses the bracket a bit too much), balance the current 8.0-9.0 bracket using those as a baseline. Bring the good missile carrying subsonics up in order to create a better gap between supersonics, sub-sonics, and missile slingers. And just decompress the rest from there.
Under no circumstances should the current 14.0s be in the same match as an F-4F ICE (just by looking at how stuff at lower BRs is, something with that much of a capability jump is too high for even a 1.0 gap). We just need a ton of decompression at 13.0+, and better meshing between 3rd/4th gen planes, non IRCCM/IRCCM carriers, and ARH/non ARH carriers.
Speed isn’t the full context.
While there are some, some aircraft that are genuinely under-BR’d there are those that aren’t.
Mig-21 and F-104 were originally designed to intercept bombers, which is why neither can dogfight anywhere close to good.
F-104/Mig-21F-13 vs Mig-15Bis, Mig-17, LIM-5, Sabre, G91, G91Y; the outcome is a stalemate, a perfect stalemate.
Now, you put in F-100D and it’ll wipe the flow with the supersonics, but still die to the LIM-5 and G91Y at the minimum.
This is the air RB scenario.
Now let’s talk about a jet that use to be 10.0: F-4C.
This thing can easily dominate all jets listed except a smart LIM-5 player and of course the F-100D.
So there’s more than just “supersonic vs subsonic” it’s maneuverable speed vs pure speed.