Just as the question itself (only for Air Battles) it suffers at 8.7 without any offensive/defensive, its payload is small to either destroy bases and ground pounding, its only “strenght” so to say, is its speed but it starts to warn you about exceeding max speed between 950 - 1000 km/h.
So, What do you think? Would it be a crime to lower the BR of F-117 for air battles?
It should be lowered in ground and air tbh. F-117 outrunning everything wouldn’t be bad since it has no A2A weaponry. Even if you hit som1 with the paveway it just bounces off.
Me when this would mean a B-29 could see an F-117 in a match
Yes and no; air battles at this point, specifically air realistic battles, considering that ground strike is somewhat present but air engagement also known as team deathmatch is much more fun in air arcade battles and ground strike is very important in air simulator battles, in this regard air realistic battles should be revamped, ground strike should be a critical part of the match that last less than 10 minutes up to the entire time if the last guy simply vanishes from the map, this is the only part where ground strike plays a important role for victory, because the common team deathmatch isn’t more viable. While these problems exist, in air realistic battles and specially in air arcade battles, its battle rating could be reduced, in air simulator battles, no.
Yeah - it’s just wrong that B-29’s would be hunting down F-117’s!!
Ah yes, they’re totally helpless! Is what u want you to think so it can be lowered and I can ram them for the lols >:)
Jokes aside yea it going to 8.0 wouldn’t break anything. I still don’t think it could even take a base there iirc, might be wrong I forget the BRs base HP values change at. MiG-15s would still be a problem for it as well. Only thing that could really justify it staying where it’s at would be the ability to take napalm or something else to fully destroy bases, but it still doesn’t have something like that nor do I think it can get it sadly.
I doubt it would cause any issues since there are fighters at 8.0 that are faster than it anyways.
However, I think the more important thing is that is should be made able to destroy a base with 2x 2000lb bombs, otherwise poor efficiency ratings may cause it to continue to reduce in BR until it becomes impossible to kill. For clarity, I am speaking in regards to realistic battles, it may be different in arcade or sim.
Make it 7.7 in sim so it can at least kill a minibase…
They’re just free kills at 8.7 and everyone flying in the vapour cloud making them easy to spot and intercept.
Such a sad, sad plane…
The issue isn’t BR…I don’t think any change will help with that. The issue is that it can’t kill a base and this could be fixed by giving gbus a slight damage multiplier or changing how bases work.
It also has an issue of markers that eliminate it’s stealth strength (though not many have radars at that BR anyway)
TLDR. It’s not the F117, it’s the gamemode that needs fixing
making it outrun everyone would make it undefeatable
especially at 8.0 where nobody has AAMs capable of hitting a fleeing plane
There’s always a fastest plane at a BR and it’s never undefeatable. The F-117 in particular would cause little issue cause it can’t kill planes.
you’re fighting the earliest Jets at 8.0
putting the only stealth jet of the game there is asking for free RP and Free wins
it would be Undefeatable, and it would make all other Bombers ar the BR unusable
you’re out of your mind if you believe that’s a good BR for it
8.0 is where Tu 4 and IL 28 are, even the Vautours and Canberras are at a Higher BR
it would be the only bomber ar a BR where it’s faster than all fighters
Ground spawn, bad retention, with a max speed similar to b57.
And you call it undefeatable lmao
At our compressed BR8.0 we have SABRE A5
0 threat bomber left on that team let’s ground pound yum. Oh No Please kill him later mt teammate!!
and we have Tu 4
in a downtier ir would go against 7.0.planes
If you were to directly compare the F-117 to a few direct equivalents, such as the Canberra Mk2 and Buc S1 (unarmed bombers) then… the F-117 is notably faster than the Canberra, though turns a lot worse… and the Buc S1 is generally all round better than the F-117 (and I know playing the Buc S1 it actually sucks at 8.7)
So… 8.3 could be possible for the F-117, especially based upon the lack of ability to actually kill a base… but it just gets messy as the Canberras are slower, though do get airspawn…
Quite frankly what is needed is a 7.0-10.0 decompression, so that aircraft actually have the room to be balanced, and with that, maybe airspawn returning for a few of the weaker bombers at that BR like the F-117, Buc S1, Vautour, etc etc.
Couple with giving GBUs like a 1.5x damage multiplier vs bases which would increase their value in ARB/ASB and the F-117 becomes more viable as a base bomber. Could also benefit like all ground attack aircraft to have markers removed.
In fairness. lowering the BR just makes the Stealth attribute even more pointless than it already is.
Eh… Given it cant even kill a base… im on the fence whether it would actually do this or not. Whilst the Canberra is slower, it gets airspawn and can kill a base.
0% similarity
7.0-8.0.
We have: 80c 84g 86a f2h f9f 15withoutbis la200 meteors etcetc
And out 117 doesn’t even have air spawn yay