I don’t see it going anywhere else unless they get their own tree, but no matter how it’s added I’m looking forward to it.
And like Bhisma in GB TT, T80U and Mi28A in Sweden TT and etc, right?
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It doesn’t even break 300mm, sad day bois.
I mean… They’re all that’s left for T-90s and T-14s.
The same way America only gets the M1A2 SEPv3 after this.
We’ve just simply reached the end of the line. Multiple incremental updates with vehicles that barely differ are underwhelming, so they reached out and made big leaps. Now it’s time to fill the gaps, and that includes every little variant of acclaimed tanks.
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There is literally loads of video evidence of the innacuracy of the 2a42, and the 2a72 isnt the most accurate
There is tons of cool wesern tech demonstrstors and programs that could be added(ehich we have extensive sources on), there are quite a few soviet ones too, nothing that would be particularly competitive at top tier though and alot of them didnt get very far either, as for russia they didnt exactly do a whole lot in terma of making new shit, and as far as shell go 3bm59 could be added but it really isnt a signicant upgrade over 3bm60
I made a comment on a similar post, and I believe that it would be an insanely good idea to make a “heavy hitter” update of sorts.
Take the CATTB, '292, Leclerc T4, Leopard 2-140, and… Yeah. Just… Yeah!
It would add almost half a kilogram of weight onto an already great APFSDS shot. Hell, that would put it higher than M322, which for years has been one of the best shots in the game.
i dont know about that, as far as i know the russian military didnt think 3bm59 was enough of an upgrade to switch to it as their main round,
No, they have policy to show DU shells go to somewhere and propogandise it, using one themselves would be going against the same trick they use.
It’s just cost, tungsten in Russia is way cheaper then DU and since their main anti tank rounds is the missile, they not gonna mass produce/adopt it.
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but arent they extremely comparable in terms of density? if 3bm59 weighted half a kilogram more than 3bm60 wouldnt that be caused by a difference in design rather than the presence of Depleted uranium?
Where are you getting half a kg more for BM-59? We know BM-60s dimensions (640x22 that Gaijin uses), at standard Tungsten density it should weight 4.25kg (penetrator), switching this out for DU, the mass would increase to 4.5kg, i.e a quarter of a kilogram increase, not half.
Rounds like KE-W and M829A1 also share a half-kilogram difference in weight due to tungsten / DU differences. Seeing as 3BM59 / 60 and 69 / 70 are of the same design, simply using different materials, I don’t see how a different design is needed to get that much of a difference.
ok ill believe you on that cause i dont have the competences require to make an educated assumption
so where are you getting the half a kilogram difference?
I’m basing it off of prior differences in Tungsten / DU penetrators, as well as the entire projectile assembly itself for 3VBM22/23 being around ~8.8kg / ~8.1kg respectively.
3VBM23’s projectile assembly is 8.4kg
What’s your data on 3VBM22?
Weighing them at expos
Any proof of this ever happening?
You’re already wrong about BM-60 (per NiMi it’s 8.4kg for the whole assembly… not the 8.1kg you are claiming).
Being there? Do you want me to sift through my photo album?
I’m not claiming to be right about it? You don’t have to go scouring the internet to find any little inconsistency in my personal experience of handling an inert round at an arms expo.
Of you “weighting” them, and the results. If you do have proof that BM-59’s assembly is indeed 8.8kg, present it. Simple.
I’m not claiming to be right about it?
Okay? I don’t see how that’s relevant.