Wishlist for Germany (WIP)

Neither can use R73s

uhuh…

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Don’t forget the IRIS-T.

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i was thinking of adding that to the list… maybe ill add the EF too. lets make it one for the times

It isn’t exclusive to the Eurofighter. The ICE also carried it.

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And the Tornado

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The reliability of that doc is questionable.

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R-73 with red sensor covered


Also R-73

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That 1st one is an R-60/M/MK, not an R-73.

Its also not even a live missile, just an inert training one.

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What about Alphajet?

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added :)

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The flying pencil that could


An upgrade the 104 needs

History

During the peak of research and development on the modified airframe of the F-104 in Germany, the EADS project stood out as one of the most knowledgeable initiatives, contributing significantly to discoveries about the F-104 airframe.
Seeking to enhance the manoeuvrability of the F-104 starfighter, the Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm (MBB) company undertook modifications on a German Air Force F-104G by adding substantial weight to the tail section, intentionally destabilizing it, and integrating Computer Controlled Flight systems.
This transformed the aircraft into the F-104G-CCV (computer controlled vehicle), with an additional set of horizontal stabilizers from another F-104 positioned behind the cockpit canopy.
Further computer systems were installed to enhance flight control and manoeuvring capabilities. Additionally, external fuel tanks similar to those on the F-16 were affixed to the fuselage.
The insights gained from this aircraft proved invaluable in the development of both the Tornado and the Eurofighter Typhoon.
One complete aircraft is currently housed in the German aviation museum. Two such airframes underwent modifications for testing and flight experimentation.

Specifications
  • Crew: 1
  • Length: 16.6m
  • Wingspan: 6.6m
  • Height: 4.1m
  • Empty weight: 6,600 kg
  • Maximum Takeoff weight: 24,000 kg
  • Powerplant: 1 × General Electric J79 afterburning turbojet, 4130 kgf thrust dry, 8400 kgf with afterburner
  • Maximum Speed: 2,460 km/h
  • Maximum Altitude: 22,000 m
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Disclaimer: the CCV was apparently never tested with weapons but in game i suppose a bit of historical leniency can be provided even with just the standard F-104G loadouts.

  • 3 x 250kg Matra 25E bombs
  • 3 x 500lb Mk82 bombs
  • 3 x 750lb M117 cone 45 bombs
  • 3 x 1000lb Mk83 bombs
  • 2 x Hydra rockets
  • 4 x Aim-9J AAMs
  • 2 x AS.20 NORD AGM
  • 2 x AS.30 NORD AGM
    Plus full CCIP but no CCRP
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My personal wishlist is
He 280
VAK 191B
VJ 101
EF 126

Also a few designed in foreign nations but designed by Germans post-war

Pulqui II
HA-200
HA-300
HF-24

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There is a german ww2 vessel with a helicopter on it. That would be cool to add even though it won’t be very usefull. But can’t remember if it was this helicopter

ill add these for sure! thanks!

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its more of a meme than anything else lol. it did carry 2 x 250 kg bombs so it might be a good replacement for the Bf-109 in GRB

It also had a manually aimed machine gun. Probably not very useful, but could be used to take out open-top vehicles. Plus theres also the option of scouting or capturing points. A very low tier helicopter is worth it.

The French built copies after the war and the British and US had captured examples, so if really nessescary for them to have an equivalent heli then they could get the exact same. Czechoslovakia also had some, so you could string that into a way for the Soviet tree to get them too.

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if implemented i would want this as a tech tree vehicle. not as an event one so that everyone has the chance to use these.
as for other nations equivalents… there should be counterparts but if not yes, this can be given to all of them lol.
maybe a heli pvp event where you just have this? lol

I think it would be sacrilege for the German version to be locked away as an event vehicle. Personally I’d add the German and French versions (plus Czech if they ever get an independent tree) to the tech tree, with Brit and US versions as event vehicles. I just want a goofy prop-era heli for fun.

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well ofc if the original is an event vehicle the others would be too. but yeah, making it a low tier prop era heli would introduce a new dimension to new players especially