(WIP) Modern IR (FOX2) Missile - History, Performance & Discussion

Napkin math strikes again (unfortunately)…

In War Thunder MICA-EM has worst kinematics than CAMM (basically a heavier ASRAAM)

I wonder then if the CAMM/ASRAAM is missing a load of thrust

i have no idea, gotta ask Flame

Note ASRAAM and CAMM are different weights, 89kg CW 99kg.

ASRAAM has a longer burn time too

Yes, ASRAAM will accelerate even more

Honestly not sure what to make of the burn time. Could be 3 seconds of pure boost, or could have a couple of extra seconds at a reduced thrust.

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It probably variable no? Depending on conditions?
73 for example is boost only for 4.2 to 6.8 seconds
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Really depends on the altitude and temperature too. So tbh I don’t think the current burn is particularly bad as a general representation.

wait so (assuming the databuses are the same) you can put an ASRAAM seeker on a SL launched CAMM and an RF seeker on an ASRAAM?

They nerfed the damage of missiles? I’m getting “hits” more than never in this update, the first two i was in doubt because the launch wasnt very optimal, but this last one leaves no doubt, it was a very good launch and scored only a hit



Yeah all missiles are like that
Sarh and ir to have the same issue
Ir is a bit more consistent

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here’s how r-73 irccm works (what u were saying but with more context)


china PL-11AE
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Semi-active radar guidance, infrared guidance, inertial guidance

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I thought pl-11a was active radar guided? So it would be active radar + ir guidance no?

found a better launch description from mig-29 manual
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There is not really any Info on the PL-11AE, so except the IR nothing is confirmed (also iirc this one stems from a SPAA based on PL-11´s, could be wrong tho)

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I mean wasn’t the whole conclusion basically :
Mica should have a stronger booster than in game (3.5s and a bit more thrust) but no sustainer

Meaning it would on fact accelerate even harder than it currently does if it was fixed

Then remains the question of drag. French missile all tend to accelerate like there is no tomorrow (Mistral to mach 2.5 in 2s, Aster to M4.5 in 3.5s and only 4s sustain, Magic II with barely more than 2s as well), but then get oofed by insane drag and incorrect trajectories (Aster M1.3 at 30 clicks in game, 2.6 IRL, mistral was also reported to slow down too quickly, although not to the same extent)

This is PL-11AE, not PL-11A.

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