(WIP) Modern IR (FOX2) Missile - History, Performance & Discussion

Massively over performing in track rate then? In game is 30deg/s with the 36T seeker looks to be 15deg/s

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Also got thoses one:
I’m currently trying to get as mutch info on them before posting it since they got lots and lots of seekers.

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For the R-73 family i also found thoses seekers:

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Same image as yours but here you can find a focal plane array seeker. So they have developped an Imaging seeker for their missile. they have the tech so i wonder why they don’t use it. Maybe it’s daytime only or something idk.

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I think the proposed upgrade is the MK-2000 but not sure since there’s no name on the image.

So your calculation is initially incorrect

I already reported this, they corrected all seeker characteristics except track rate I’m not sure why.

Only actual serial production seeker is 36T. All others is ukranian proposals for modernization.

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Yes I found your report, they had another source claiming 30deg/s, I’ve added the Ukrainian 15deg/s claim to go along side yours. Should lend more weight to those two sources over the one they are using.

I was under the impression modernized R-27s purchased by the chinese in the mid 2000s had A3-10 seekers

They were, because they were bought from Ukraine.

Rather, 120g may be a realistic maneuverability since Python-5 does not use TVC. If the missile is not using TVC and needs to make a sharp turn to hit a target behind the aircraft, it will need a fairly high level of maneuverability.

as far as I remember, the maximum level of the achieved G is 75.Not 120

Is there any evidence for this? Any source is welcome

The same as yours

Yes, I already said that the figures for some missiles are taken from the internet. That’s why I said to take the 3 missiles in the table with a grain of salt.

And, I agree with your comment about the turning radius, but from my memory, 60g for IRIS-T is official from Diehl Defense. I also think 100g is not impossible due to the too high speed of ASRAAM.

x.com Ground launched ASRAAM. You get a indication of its high manoeuvrability as it launches near vertical and arches down from a relatively steep angle to hit the target

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not very special tbh. https://youtu.be/orJujPH83jk?si=haBZGUqpTrt_bI7v&t=65 here’s a SAMP/T launch, which, afaik, does not have thrust vectoring either

Hot damn the speed is impressive.

The difference here being the ASRAAM is firing at something extremely close. The SAMP/T is firing up and going in a straight line the ASRAAM is firing up and instantly arching back down

the samp/t started pitching over after about 1 sec and was done pitching over after about 1.5-2 sec. if it was firing at something close it would’ve continued and done the same thing as the asraam, potentially even quicker

Nice video !
Definitly feel like the Asraam is a mach3+ missile.

Look like the Asraam migth be a 70G missile after all (so it does uses dual plane). Feel like the 100G value is still too high tho.

It’s still probably one of the least maneuveuring 5gen missiles.
Since it doesn’t have a thrust profile optimised for HOBS shots.