(WIP) Modern IR (FOX2) Missile - History, Performance & Discussion

Where does the value in 399 m come from?

Yeah you can see it in my thread.
It can do a 180° turn in only 2sec compared to the 4s for the first gen R-73.

R= V^2 / G = 686*686/ 1177.2 = 399m

Massively over performing in track rate then? In game is 30deg/s with the 36T seeker looks to be 15deg/s

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Also got thoses one:
I’m currently trying to get as mutch info on them before posting it since they got lots and lots of seekers.

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For the R-73 family i also found thoses seekers:

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Same image as yours but here you can find a focal plane array seeker. So they have developped an Imaging seeker for their missile. they have the tech so i wonder why they don’t use it. Maybe it’s daytime only or something idk.

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I think the proposed upgrade is the MK-2000 but not sure since there’s no name on the image.

So your calculation is initially incorrect

I already reported this, they corrected all seeker characteristics except track rate I’m not sure why.

Only actual serial production seeker is 36T. All others is ukranian proposals for modernization.

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Yes I found your report, they had another source claiming 30deg/s, I’ve added the Ukrainian 15deg/s claim to go along side yours. Should lend more weight to those two sources over the one they are using.

I was under the impression modernized R-27s purchased by the chinese in the mid 2000s had A3-10 seekers

They were, because they were bought from Ukraine.

Rather, 120g may be a realistic maneuverability since Python-5 does not use TVC. If the missile is not using TVC and needs to make a sharp turn to hit a target behind the aircraft, it will need a fairly high level of maneuverability.

as far as I remember, the maximum level of the achieved G is 75.Not 120

Is there any evidence for this? Any source is welcome

The same as yours

Yes, I already said that the figures for some missiles are taken from the internet. That’s why I said to take the 3 missiles in the table with a grain of salt.

And, I agree with your comment about the turning radius, but from my memory, 60g for IRIS-T is official from Diehl Defense. I also think 100g is not impossible due to the too high speed of ASRAAM.

x.com Ground launched ASRAAM. You get a indication of its high manoeuvrability as it launches near vertical and arches down from a relatively steep angle to hit the target

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not very special tbh. https://youtu.be/orJujPH83jk?si=haBZGUqpTrt_bI7v&t=65 here’s a SAMP/T launch, which, afaik, does not have thrust vectoring either

Hot damn the speed is impressive.