Looks like there’s no point in playing anything that isn’t a leopard 2a4/5/6/7 anymore. Merkavas are shit. I have the mk III, leopard 2a4 sits a whole br lower almost and it doesn’t even have to aim to a weak spot, because the whole thing is a weak spot. Survivability? It’s dogshit, don’t believe YouTubers reviews that say muh merkava survivable. It’s one shot kill 90% of the time. Maybe gayjin just wants top tier to be a one shot shit fest that’s why they ain’t buffing the armour of cardboard tanks like the Ariete, and Merkava. They couldn’t care less about the real thing. Same for the Leclerc I guess, but I can’t say anything about it cause I didn’t play it yet.
Ive been saying this for a while they should take away dm53 from 2a5 and move it down to like 11.3
At this state of Leclerc?
Absolutely
Consisering 2pl and 2a4m are a thing and sits higher no taking away dm53 would nake it 11.3
Its better armored turret wise then those 2 and at 11.3 would be way ro much of a pain
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Thats just untrue. The leo is balanced well br wise.
If you go up in br the enemy tanks are better. And equal is similar.
2a4 aint surviveble either at that br the russian and american tanks are stronger armor wise not to mention reload
Did the dutch army even own Leopard 2A6? As far as I know they were just leasing some from German Bundeswehr to kept their crews trained. But they didn’t really own them. The dutch army tanker training is mostly done in Munster, Germany. So I wounder whether any of those even left Germany. Especially since NL ground forces are in integrated into Ger army.
With the state they’ve left Leclerc in, certainly.
They shouldn’t have been added. Leclerc should have been fixed. Not like they haven’t got enough accurate bug reports on it.
Up until 2011 they had two tank battalions with 2A6, after that 414 was created with leased 2A6M iirc.
Which is basically added mine plate under the hull.
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At 10.3 was borderline op, now is still the strongest 10.7 and it’s much better than any russian shitty T-72 no contest.
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Ahhh yes…
Cause there is so many tanks the leo 2a4 shares the br with
Leopard 2a4 410mm 6,4s-6,0s reload
M1 Abrams 372mm 6,5s-5,0s reload better armored
Does the T-72Moderna count? 509mm 7.1s reload better armored, gen2 thermals
Object 292 talks for itself
Challenger mk 3 471mm 6,5s-5,0s reload
challenger ds 471mm 6,5s-5,0s reload
T-90Bishma 457mm 7.1s
The more i go on the more u look like a joke "the best 10.7 " vehicle i cant stop laughing
Ariete P 481mm 7.8s-6.0s
Honestly turned out more 10.7 vehicles as i expected cause i caunted squadron events etc.
But it showed u have no idea what u are talking about. A lot of those vehicles have better penetration, reload and armored.
The only aspect the leo is good at is mobility. seriously look at vehicles for once before spouting nonsense
the only 10.7 is theT-72 moderna it easily beats the leo in penetration and armor and thermals with gen 2
10.7 is now quite a bit too much for the A4. It doesn’t even get DM33 and its armor is now meaningless. I currently don’t run a 10.7 lineup. I rather use the 10.3 Tam, the Leopard 2AV, PT16, Flarakpz, Radkampfwagen, the WTD Tornado, Hind, F-4F…
10.3 is quite good now. The 10.7 BR Leopard 2A4 is just too high BRed and tbh…there are now so many 2A4 rolling around from that many different nations…I’ve got issues with that…who’s friend…whoes foe? Its just too much. Probably one more for France with the next patch…its just dead for me.
The price for the Moderna is skyrocketing @ Marketplace. For a reason. For its BR its mega, giga op. Super pen, super thermals, good armor and a super nasty autocannon. All this at the same BR as the Leopard 2A4 lol.
The only one who looks like a joke are you if you’re taking in account just the ammo pen LOL. The fact that the leopard 2a4 features monstrous mobility it doesnt mean shit in evaluating jus how good a vehicle is your opinion? Ok, besides, it’s a sturdy tank and difficult to kill in one shot, overall it has the most balanced combination, the challanger ds is slow and the hull armor is shit.
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ok boomer ignore me literaly saying that
Both of you lot are wrong.
The other muppet for trying to claim Ariete is remotely better than 2a4, and you lot for claiming it is too strong for 10.3, the 2a4 is good at 10.3 but there’s plenty of competition to it at 10.3 that it’s equal to. And what it isn’t equal to, it’s only a little bit better than.
2a4s are pretty easy to kill, if you take the time to know where to shoot it. I’ll give you a hint, it’s the big flat bit on the front of the turret.
that tells me u suffer from skill issue because u can easily one shot leos just as much as anything else but ok.
Yes leo is a jack of all trades i dont deny that. still a fact that it gets vastly outnumbered in more important stats, specialy when the maps are made for brawling more and more and thats where other vehicles are just better
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well 10.7 now
Makes sense. Heaven forbid we allow 10.3 line ups.
the giant sight on the left side is a pretty good spot to shoot as well
ah yeah the good old skill issue, well if you have problems
killing some shitty turms in your leopard 2a4 that’s your skill issue right there, as you see everyone shares skill issues
harder to do with 410mm then any other tank besides abrams hwen they get more penetration shrug
still statisticaly u are plain wrong with leo 2a4 being the strongest mbt its a plain fact, just cause u are salty for whatever doesnt change that
and before you go crying mimimi germans, i am not saying its the worst