Up until 2011 they had two tank battalions with 2A6, after that 414 was created with leased 2A6M iirc.
Which is basically added mine plate under the hull.
1 Like
At 10.3 was borderline op, now is still the strongest 10.7 and it’s much better than any russian shitty T-72 no contest.
1 Like
Ahhh yes…
Cause there is so many tanks the leo 2a4 shares the br with
Leopard 2a4 410mm 6,4s-6,0s reload
M1 Abrams 372mm 6,5s-5,0s reload better armored
Does the T-72Moderna count? 509mm 7.1s reload better armored, gen2 thermals
Object 292 talks for itself
Challenger mk 3 471mm 6,5s-5,0s reload
challenger ds 471mm 6,5s-5,0s reload
T-90Bishma 457mm 7.1s
The more i go on the more u look like a joke "the best 10.7 " vehicle i cant stop laughing
Ariete P 481mm 7.8s-6.0s
Honestly turned out more 10.7 vehicles as i expected cause i caunted squadron events etc.
But it showed u have no idea what u are talking about. A lot of those vehicles have better penetration, reload and armored.
The only aspect the leo is good at is mobility. seriously look at vehicles for once before spouting nonsense
the only 10.7 is theT-72 moderna it easily beats the leo in penetration and armor and thermals with gen 2
10.7 is now quite a bit too much for the A4. It doesn’t even get DM33 and its armor is now meaningless. I currently don’t run a 10.7 lineup. I rather use the 10.3 Tam, the Leopard 2AV, PT16, Flarakpz, Radkampfwagen, the WTD Tornado, Hind, F-4F…
10.3 is quite good now. The 10.7 BR Leopard 2A4 is just too high BRed and tbh…there are now so many 2A4 rolling around from that many different nations…I’ve got issues with that…who’s friend…whoes foe? Its just too much. Probably one more for France with the next patch…its just dead for me.
The price for the Moderna is skyrocketing @ Marketplace. For a reason. For its BR its mega, giga op. Super pen, super thermals, good armor and a super nasty autocannon. All this at the same BR as the Leopard 2A4 lol.
The only one who looks like a joke are you if you’re taking in account just the ammo pen LOL. The fact that the leopard 2a4 features monstrous mobility it doesnt mean shit in evaluating jus how good a vehicle is your opinion? Ok, besides, it’s a sturdy tank and difficult to kill in one shot, overall it has the most balanced combination, the challanger ds is slow and the hull armor is shit.
1 Like
ok boomer ignore me literaly saying that
Both of you lot are wrong.
The other muppet for trying to claim Ariete is remotely better than 2a4, and you lot for claiming it is too strong for 10.3, the 2a4 is good at 10.3 but there’s plenty of competition to it at 10.3 that it’s equal to. And what it isn’t equal to, it’s only a little bit better than.
2a4s are pretty easy to kill, if you take the time to know where to shoot it. I’ll give you a hint, it’s the big flat bit on the front of the turret.
that tells me u suffer from skill issue because u can easily one shot leos just as much as anything else but ok.
Yes leo is a jack of all trades i dont deny that. still a fact that it gets vastly outnumbered in more important stats, specialy when the maps are made for brawling more and more and thats where other vehicles are just better
1 Like
well 10.7 now
Makes sense. Heaven forbid we allow 10.3 line ups.
the giant sight on the left side is a pretty good spot to shoot as well
ah yeah the good old skill issue, well if you have problems
killing some shitty turms in your leopard 2a4 that’s your skill issue right there, as you see everyone shares skill issues
harder to do with 410mm then any other tank besides abrams hwen they get more penetration shrug
still statisticaly u are plain wrong with leo 2a4 being the strongest mbt its a plain fact, just cause u are salty for whatever doesnt change that
and before you go crying mimimi germans, i am not saying its the worst
Arguably, Abrams is better. Relatively similar weakpoints, faster, good enough round to kill things mostly the same ways.
1 Like
maybe,
i am only sure that ariete stays bad no matter what.
But challenger definitly is better at 10.7, there is a reason 10.7 is britains strongest line up and most played.
because british 10.7 is good
Ok so it’s not the best 10.7, then what is? The challanger ds? Slow and no hull armor, it’s easier to one shot just by aiming center hull, hull down can be a pain but that’s it and there are not many of them.The abrams with it’s anemic gun? I don’t think so since you’re saying that 410 are not enough how can 370 be enough?
This btw is somehow reflected by the fact that the leopard is the most common at 10.7, there are swarms of them every match, going against them in a T-72b with -4kmh is a pain every single time.
Yes. Before selling them all to Portugal & Finland.
As far as I know they were just leasing some from German Bundeswehr to kept their crews trained.
That’s Leopard 2A6MA2 & Leopard 2A6MA3, both of which are owned solely by the Bundeswehr. Logically, France/NLD should never get them in WT as they’re a property of the Heer.
2 Likes
dunno maybe the t-72 moderna, its stats are exceptionaly good and speed isnt that big of an issue as you make it out to be, besides that u can kill leopards with center shots just as much as the challys
where did i say its not enough? i just said that other vehicles have way better penetration and the reload of the abrams is a big advantage that balances it partialy, disabling critical parts like the barrel is the magic word here
and ? this has nothing to do with how good the leopard is. its just the most exported western vehicle.
its already in germany, italy and sweden soon to be france. Its just that those nations naturaly will all use leos, there more often then not dont have other mbts to take, why are u suprised about that? nothing to do with it being strong
u are complaining that a 10.3 vehicle is worse then a 10.7 , u might see the issue there.
My recommendation is try the t-72moderna, its propably the strongest 10.7. or switch to the premium / tech tree T-80s they are quite a bit stronger then the lo as well, naturaly slightly higher br.
but just like the t-72b u named that dopesnt matter does it?
You’re talking about a market vehicle that almost nobody own and that could explain the statistics, but ok, as far as I know but I may be wrong the Moderna has worse hull armour than a T-72b isn’t it just a modernized T-72m? With the same crappy reverse which is a big downside not a minor issue in a game, I don’t see what this thing does better than the leopard, the gun? That’s it? Everything else is just worse. Survivability? Worse, armour? Arguably worse. Reload? Worse, turret traverse? Worse. Thermals maybe 2gen? A 20 mm?. It doesn’t look like anything special to me, apart from the fact that is a rare vehicle.
even then the statistics of the moderna isnt really much better than the lopard 2a4 with the worse stats (the tt german one), they differ by just 0.5 in both kd and around the same win rate with like ten times less games played, for reference the italian leo has much better stats with even twice as many games