Can testify to that the L27 spalling is pretty underwhelming
Yep. L27A1 rarely OHK unless you nail the pixel perfect spot to hit something like ammo.
I had a light tank yesterday take 3 L27A1 to be killed. I literally had to kill each crew man one at a time
Trust me, it won’t, its either that your breech gets magically disabled, or you get hit in basket which goes all the way to the engine and then it’s GG.
They are about the same
I have nailed Abrams in this magical spot before and they just reversed around cover, Had it happen dozens of times.
Exact scenario you mentioned a few posts up for me from last night, abrams comes round the corner, i shoot him, he shoots back
- his fuel tank explodes and driver dies
- I explode
That’s a bad shot, you shot at the driver, that’s literally your fault.
Because its not. Its average at best. If that. Abrams literally has better survivability than most top tier tanks at the moment bar the Leopard 2s
I rarely play top tier because even a 12.0 every single match is a full uptier. Only a few are onpar.
Whats the point of playing a BR where you are simply outclassed in every single respect. We dont even have our reload advantage anymore because Gaijin decided to give the second best tank in the game, the same reload.
yeah i know DM53 habits that is my go to 9 times out of 10, DM53 there makes them explode just as well as the turret ring
Yep. When I survive a hit. Its a shock. Though if it penned at all im 100% disabled. Even without a turret basket.
So I dont care if they added one or not. It would change absolutely nothing.
Facts are facts.
Firepower:
Second best shell in the game, only behind DM53, but gets a 5 second reload
Survivability:
Good overall protection and with things like blowout panels and such
Mobility: Above average
What is actually bad about the Abrams?
Imo, it should have its reload rate dropped to 6 seconds to match the Leopard 2s
Though I know the average skill level of a US main is far far lower than that of most other nations
Third best shell,
Survivability: none
Blowout panels work only when your ammo gets shot from the side lol,
Mobility is fairly good.
Reload is the only thing good about it
Wow!! Blowout panels make the Abrams the second best tank in the game??
Ignoring what cons i’ve mentioned several times.
And increase its survivability to match the Leopards also.
No. Its the second best. Only behind DM53
Routinely survives first hit. Definetly tons more than the the Merkava, Ariete, Challenger 2, TKX, etc etc
So? That is still more than a lot of tanks have. Shot in the side is a guranteed OHK for most other tanks.
Still should be 6 seconds to match the Leopard 2s. Or they need to buff the relaod rate of a lot of others to 4 seconds
The abrams is a good tank, the chally is also a good tank but you need to be more patient with it.
The chally ammo is hit and miss with less spalling so what works with 1 shell may not work with another and it’s also painfully slower.
Every tank has massive weakspots frontally in top tier they all die equally as well as each other once you know them.
Learning to minimise exposure of them is a challenge
You havent mentioned a single one yet.
Considering its 10.7. I wasnt counting that among those at top tier if you want to pedantic then yes. But its still tailing just behind the DM53. And you are kinda proving my point here given the 292 also has a really long reload rate to compensate for high pen and just proving my point that the Abrams should get a long reload rate.
Rarely. Usually Abrams survive hits to places that OHK everything else.
Though US players also have to be dumb to not OHK litereally everything else in game with their great shell.
Hopefully they rework DU shells to model their advantages
The abrams has less frontal area where it can be penned by top tier rounds, the main difference is that the UFP on the abrams will deflect on most of its area, the Challanger hull in a whole weakspot.
The turret is similar for both, the abrams has more turret ring weakspot, the chally has more manlet weakspot.
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I never aim for the turret ring because L27A1 always non-pens/ricochets, so I dont know why that is suppose to be this super weakspot.
Challengers are missing most of their spall liners as well and due to crew position, and such, they provide no meaningful survivability, Any pen is 99.99% chance of a OHK.
Again… You are claiming the Turret ring is this super massive weakspot and yet ignoring the fact that if you hit a Challenger 2, Ariete, etc anywhere other than a few strong spots, it will probably OHK.
So you are claiming the Abrams has worse survivability than most because it has a weakspot and yet ignoring the fact that most tanks dont have weakspots, instead they have strongspots and if you hit anywhere other than the strongspots you will OHK
By my god, these american trolls. If they had it their way the F-15E would be 12.0 and the M1A2 would be 10.3. Though they probably still do badly
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