Hate to be this type of guy, simply just correcting you a little bit. SS11 are MCLOS, not MACLOS. SACLOS stands for « semi automatic command (?) line of sight ». You saying MACLOS would mean « manually automatic » which isn’t real at all.
The 3 main types are (from oldest to most recent)
-MACLOS: manually guided - with keyboard in game (all wire guided)
-SACLOS: semi automatic my guided - with mouse in game (wire guided or beam riding)
-ACLOS : automatically guided - with lock, fire and forget in game (spikes, PARS 3s). (use optical, IR, visible light sensor) (some ACLOS can also be SACLOS controlled IRL, one exemple being the French made AKERON)
I want to add that the Marder fits the autocannon and missile in a superstructure, which, while still being ammoracable, makes it a much harder target to kill when it’s hull down, adding to its survivability (as the Marder can actually hull down, contrary to the ratel lol).
Btw, I did not even know the ratel lacked APDS. What a terrible piece of ****
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Because they lack any other offensive armament, or any other way to fight back other than their missile, making them have the same effectiveness as trying to stick a square in a circle hole, because it can’t do anything.
Not to mention, it’s British, and it’s a literal school-bus. The Milan is total rubbish from what I’ve heard, and the guns not effective against any armor at the BR, like a Tiger II or Super Persh.
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There’s nothing wrong with MILAN, it’s a solid missile even if it doesn’t go quite as hard as TOW or 9M113. This car definitely gets it’s BR because of the godawful autocannon
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Yeah it really is a complete sack of shite, it’s designed purely for an IRL niche that just does not exist in this game. There’s the 2022 modernisation for the Ratel 20 that would fix a few issues but it’d still pale in comparison to the Marder.
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Why’s it 6.7 you ask? Let me tell you.
- It’ll die if you look at it funny
- It’s as big as a bus (hints the nickname “battlebus”)
- The 20mm can only pen like up to 57mm of armor and that’s HVAP and it doesn’t do jack diddily
- It’s not stabilize
- You can’t shoot the ATM on the move
- The ATGM doesn’t even do that much damage (that I find)
- Have to park it like a car not a tank
The only thing it really has going for it is speed, an ATGM at lower BR (but it faces the pinnacle designs of heavy tanks) and thin armor doesn’t pen APHE shells too often so it has strange survivability, oh and it has lots of empty space, but that’ll most likely be fixed soon.
It honestly works more as a SPAA
So that’s why it’s 6.7 hope it helps! :)
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U see missiles mentioned and you go ‘bicker bicker whine whine’, 530 mm pen max. 400 mm heat rounds are available to israeli 6.0 m51, ratel max 7 rounds, m51 max many more comparatively. m51 shot speed greater means shot hideeeeeeeee. Rater missile speed slow miisile hard to control mean fire stare stare stare ohh the target moved then move reticle to aim ohh missed repeat ohh I’m getting shot I’m toast. Main gun is effectively just a tad bit better than .50 cal. No apds. So you gotta forget about the main auto cannon just consider it an mg at this point coz you won’t pen any shit that’s worth its juice. You firing platform is larger than MBTs good luck hiding that thing, ohh this thing is so underpowered i keep slipping while going 10 degrees incline fk my life. Omg someone is coming i gotta turn hold on forward turn backward turn forward turn backward turn ahhh shoot too late. omg if only i had 2 more degrees of gun depression I won’t have to expose this massive school bus of a missile carrier just to shoot and stare at a tank for minutes. Omg this turret traverse so slow that I can’t even track planes definitely worse than a roof mounted .50 cal. Omg it’s a sand map even heavies will be faster than me here ohh why do they call me a light tank when I’m the last one to arrive and my missiles need positioning to function I can’t do shit like this. Gaijin god why did you have to put me among these monsters save me please: prolly ratel 20 monologue
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You proceeded to mention maclos yourself lol how ironic considering that you stepped up to correct him. It goes to show that anyone can make mistakes and your little tidbits here were uncalled for when the context of what the guy said was clear as a day
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Yeah I stand to be corrected this time :)
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Definitely is; as I’ve used it on the Marder, and it’s a utter pain, not to mention you only get 4.
I have literally never died to a Ratel before. from the of it, you could fire the ATGM over walls/hills without exposing your hull, although I’ve never even seen som1 do that.
Surely such a powerful vehicle would have tons of players.