Good thing we’re not playing a WW2 reenactment game.
We’re playing a war games simulator; and if you want to know more about war games use the search term “NATO war games” or similar.
IRL war games are even rather unbalanced where sometimes there are T-34s vs Abrams.
Fine so we can keep the R2Y2 and not worry right? Nice to see we finally agree on something Alvis.
Having been a real war and simulations I can assure we are not old pal…well new pal now we agree so much : )
Any semblance of history stops when the game starts so who really cares if we meet a Panther 2 or R2Y2. Nobody ever put a 155mm Long Tom on a highly mobile moving platform during WW2 or even Korea but there it is slaying German Tanks at 4BR in true Sci fi fashion…an alternative history not a real one and we all have to just suck it up.
As much as your posts complain about balanced vehicles facing other balanced vehicles.
I haven’t seen your posts mention ASU-57, R3 T20, M51, Concept 3…
And of course your post-war F-4U-4B VMF-214.
That’s just in your top 16 played vehicles with Germany excluded.
Oh, Sherman I Composito being post-war as well.
There is more in life than wanting… ASU-57 face T-64s, or F-4U-4B face F-84Fs.
And if you really do want that then custom battles + the discords that create historical reenactments exist.
Then you haven’t been paying attention Alvis.
Like I said, I have to bow to the historical lunacy that is War Thunder.
With regards to the latest move we are all just having to bow to the lunacy that is War Thunder : )
The r2y2 removal is completely different as the thing never existed (at least the in game configuration) in real life. This is the standard that vehicles are typically held too but idk lets just twist it into some historical thing and complain about all these non issues that aren’t related.
WarThunder state Today, we’d like to give you a heads up regarding the removal of the R2Y2 V1, V2 and V3 for research so that you can get them before they’re gone.
So they are so game breaking they have not only had them in the line up for years but are not even removing them immediately,almost encouraging people to grind them while they can.
So much of War Thunder never existed as I said and we play a fictional game ,yes the actual game ,you know the bit that isn’t Auctions,Chests,Hard sell ,and the need to go to such great lengths to recreate historical vehicles in a game that isn’t historical.
Its a paper game to be honest so who cares?
Its not like its being singled out and this is the first time this has ever happened. And hence once the replacement came it got struck off.
Dosn’t really take away the basic stupidity here.There is noting historical or real about WT so just let it go.That is my point.Its a game so heavily reliant on creative license in so many ways.Go for game balance and fun,drop the realism facade.
Gaijin really need to get around the table at this point and decide what they want the game to be and who it is for.It has no sense of direction or reason to be other than a simple silly shooter for five minutes of fun once a week.
So they were wrong to remove the Panther 2 and all the other times this has happened?
It does only keep unfinished vehicles for only as long as they are needed.
Some level of realism is needed inorder to actually give an idea of what vehicles should like and how they should perform. They drop the rest when more enjoyment is to be had without it.
I face the Panther 2 in a UK WW2 tank and it makes no difference in a game where I also face Sweden on a 60s map set in the USA mainland : )
That is the reality of where WT is at. Dont be fooled by the trinkets and all the other bumpf that surrounds the actual game.Once you are on that map its pure sci fi.
I would love to play game that can properly nod towards history but sadly War Thunder is not that as I am told so often on here, yet here we are scrapping planes that didn’t really exist while playing scenarios that didn’t exist.
Do realism or don’t do realism.That is my point
You keep switching the discussion from realism with vehicles to realism in the game as a whole the games claim to realism is its modelling of vehicles and weaponry not other things. Plus who cares about maps when team allocation is not always Cold War or ww2 matchups.
There is no switch in discussion as I only have one point to make.
The game is not historical or realisitc. Thats it.
Plus who wants realism in the game as a whole?
Abram’s vs t54s
German vehicles having reliability issues
Gun barrels not being able to noclip through walls
There are plenty of this kind of thing and that’s not even considering limitations of the game engine.
If you want realism in all aspects don’t play this game and rather GHPC.
War thunder will continue with their approach to realism (mainly vehicle and weaponry modelling) and R2Y2 is just an example of this and isn’t some kind of targeted thing.
R2Y2s were only OP when they were 7.3 and lower.
War Thunder is as paper as real life militaries and DCS.
Then who really cares about the R2Y2 or even facing R2D2?
You are making my own point for me .Its a game of fiction.Any pretense of realism was squeezed out a long time ago, certainly over past couple of years.I think a war Thunder player can either treat the game as a light hearted joke now or leave.
Put the R2Y2 in the barrel along with Anime bodypillows,The Maus and Sweden at WW2.I actually got killed by a Panther 2 last night and I didn’t cry about it for hours : )
I have long since given up on any sense of real war in War Thunder.
I dont get this whole thread honestly, the R2Y2 are fake. No questions. No other way around it. And Gaijin has been saying they will be removed back in the old forums, a lot of suggestions have been made, why not a single one of those suggestions has been added who knows, but it doesn’t take the fact that the R2Y2 are non existent, Gaijiin shouldn’t have taken so long to remove them, but the amount of people trying to argue against is just dumb, like for God’s sake do you understand that NOTHING of this supposedly plane exists? Is fabricated, everything, stats, weaponry, capabilities, shape. For the love of god we got more information about the Ki-201 despite not having an image of it than this supposedly variant of a plane that didn’t even entered production
Still researching those suggestions which are less than 2 years old.
Passed to devs 1 year ago, and these type of aircraft require more research than standard military combat aircraft.
Just have a look at this and read the comments players have made.The game is full of such junk so who cares.The planes have been in the game for years and who cares?
The game already has fictional junk and vehicles so poor in reality that they never served a day in any army and who cares?
Gaijin are leaving these in until April urging people to grind them before they are gone so its hardly game destroying is it? They were put in to urgently fill gaps and presumably those gaps will remain unfilled.
You have been telling us all about era separation and how its just a game with no historical leanings and now you are saying these have to go due them not being historically correct in a game that is no way historically correct.
Nobody seems to give damn about those planes.The things they do care about Gaijin wont touch.
You can keep calling DCS, WT, etc “fictional junk” but that won’t change reality.
I never mentioned history in relation to R2Y2s.
Paper planes in a paper game.