There is no switch in discussion as I only have one point to make.
The game is not historical or realisitc. Thats it.
Plus who wants realism in the game as a whole?
Abram’s vs t54s
German vehicles having reliability issues
Gun barrels not being able to noclip through walls
There are plenty of this kind of thing and that’s not even considering limitations of the game engine.
If you want realism in all aspects don’t play this game and rather GHPC.
War thunder will continue with their approach to realism (mainly vehicle and weaponry modelling) and R2Y2 is just an example of this and isn’t some kind of targeted thing.
R2Y2s were only OP when they were 7.3 and lower.
War Thunder is as paper as real life militaries and DCS.
Then who really cares about the R2Y2 or even facing R2D2?
You are making my own point for me .Its a game of fiction.Any pretense of realism was squeezed out a long time ago, certainly over past couple of years.I think a war Thunder player can either treat the game as a light hearted joke now or leave.
Put the R2Y2 in the barrel along with Anime bodypillows,The Maus and Sweden at WW2.I actually got killed by a Panther 2 last night and I didn’t cry about it for hours : )
I have long since given up on any sense of real war in War Thunder.
I dont get this whole thread honestly, the R2Y2 are fake. No questions. No other way around it. And Gaijin has been saying they will be removed back in the old forums, a lot of suggestions have been made, why not a single one of those suggestions has been added who knows, but it doesn’t take the fact that the R2Y2 are non existent, Gaijiin shouldn’t have taken so long to remove them, but the amount of people trying to argue against is just dumb, like for God’s sake do you understand that NOTHING of this supposedly plane exists? Is fabricated, everything, stats, weaponry, capabilities, shape. For the love of god we got more information about the Ki-201 despite not having an image of it than this supposedly variant of a plane that didn’t even entered production
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Still researching those suggestions which are less than 2 years old.
Passed to devs 1 year ago, and these type of aircraft require more research than standard military combat aircraft.
Just have a look at this and read the comments players have made.The game is full of such junk so who cares.The planes have been in the game for years and who cares?
The game already has fictional junk and vehicles so poor in reality that they never served a day in any army and who cares?
Gaijin are leaving these in until April urging people to grind them before they are gone so its hardly game destroying is it? They were put in to urgently fill gaps and presumably those gaps will remain unfilled.
You have been telling us all about era separation and how its just a game with no historical leanings and now you are saying these have to go due them not being historically correct in a game that is no way historically correct.
Nobody seems to give damn about those planes.The things they do care about Gaijin wont touch.
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You can keep calling DCS, WT, etc “fictional junk” but that won’t change reality.
I never mentioned history in relation to R2Y2s.
Paper planes in a paper game.
Yes it’s a game of fiction which is why your prior comparisons don’t work.
Gaijins stance hasn’t t changed and fictional vehicles will not last longer than necessary and hence the R2Y2 removal was to be expected.
If you can read what I’m saying for once can you just read that last sentence.
They work fine mate. I’m saying ,don’t take it all so seriously and you might have more fun.It’s something I had to do.Even then I have to be in the mood.
Gaijins stance needs to change on many things.I don’t take any comfort from Gaijins stance generally.Are they going to take the Chi to late out and other dubious examples?
I understand you I just don’t agree .
What are you trying to sell me? War Thunder as a realistic historical war game with correct vehicles fighting correct enemies on an era related map or the semi fictional paper game of fantasy battles with multi nations and tanks 40 years apart in time and tech?
Like I very clearly said .War thunder is paper planes on a paper game.
If Gaijin want to make a realistic game then they need to do a lot more than scrap a couple of fictional gap fillers.
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The thing is there is a need for vehicles that we have actual sources and performance statistics as otherwise we may as well have the Ratte.
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Better check out the old forum, you won’t find anything older on here.
I remember the T-1 series, T-33 and Vampire T55 all being suggested there, as well as more maritime patrol aircraft. XT-4 was also thrown around, but I’m not sure if there was a suggestion for it.
Would be nice to see more replacements than just the one F-84G next update.
I actually liked the F-84 as a useful addition and historically relevant plane (being Thailands first jet), as well as the only Thai plane added without any missing capability until the SB2C-5 in the Battle Pass, but still it’s an aircraft found in multiple trees, now meant to replace three unique aircraft that are at a higher BR.
It is arguably the best replacement individually, everything else (including Japanese, Thai and even other ASEAN options) either falling above or below R2Y2 BRs, but since it was added alone it still just feels like a “bare minimum”, which is never good in exchange for a loss.
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None of those would be 7.7 - 8.7 in BR.
P-1 was the only one I found that would be around the R2Y2’s BRs, as well as be better in ground RB.
It’s a game with historical vehicles which fight in ahistorical battles.
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All battles in all video games are ahistorical cause no one likes reenacting battles.
My point exactly,its a mess anyway so who cares? I don’t even think many of the player base even know or care what or when a vehicle even was.Its just point and shoot.
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If you acknowledge it’s historical vehicles fighting ahistorical battles wtf are complaining about. The R2Y2 isn’t a historical vehicle cause it was never made. It was put in as a temporary compromise cause at the time gaijin needed an attacker for the Japanese line. Now they have a better solution and it’s no longer needed.
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Everybody has pretty much given up on any sense of history in this game after we have all tried so hard.
It was hardly temporary given how many years it went on for.
There may of been a time in this game when it all mattered but I think we are mostly past caring now.Which is a shame.
Given the recent introductions of post war stuff in WW2 and the silly new maps,what does it matter any more if the tanks are real of a stretch of the imagination? If they a have a better solution OK but the OP and youtube are saying it will be gaps or just copy paste which is just as bad or worse in actual game play terms.
You really need to start challenging the stupidity of this game in terms of its muddled attitude to history and reality.Lets all decide if we are doing history or fiction,not sit somewhere between the two and confuse and annoy the hell out of everybody.
They only person who seems confused about this decision is you.
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