Heat vs is3 for me only works directly lined up for a direct shot to the front hull, I believe that was the first time heat worked on it.
Usually the IS3’ doesn’t even acknowledge being shot by heat. And they carry on like nothing happened to kill the entire team and only slowing down to fix a busted barrel, which IS3’s end up doing the majority of the match sometimes it seems lol
They can’t pen your UFP either and must also look for weak spots, so it’s alright.
Frontally, the Tiger II pens the IS-3 on the right turret cheek, and of course can get the shot trap. Depending on the angle you can sometimes punch through the pike nose.
Yes they can reliably pen the UFP of the t29 and t34.
Those are called lucky gaijin moment shots.
Or gaijin mercy shots
Or Blessed warthunder shot
Idk
I’ve done it a few times, 98% of the time it does no damage whatsoever though lol “shot trap”
from what i tested most of the times you shoot on the is3 gun mantlet your shell will be stoped by the mg and dont do anything to the crew and when you get the angle to shoot the pike nose you might just save the shoot and go around it if possible since its not reliable at all , its like playing russian roulette when your dealing with is3’s on full uptiers
The turret front of the IS-3 is 250 mm CHA. That makes it 235 mm in RHAe, so it will only penetrate reliably (over 50% chance to go through) if you hit at extremely close range and has to hit in a way that the angle of incidence is roughly under 7°. Seems too unreliable and too strict to really actually work.
This is the best explanation of dealing with Russian turrets. Well Russian tanks in general but especially the IS series turrets. I’ve shot an IS3 in the back and side of the turret with the t34 and neither shot did any damage, they basically just shattered or deflected. But I was not shooting from any angle that would cause this to happen. Actually about 10’ away directly behind the IS3.
No, they’re not.
Volumetric, ping, and turret desync make them harder to achieve, but it’s similar to how sometimes you’ll miss the flat turret plate of the KV1 because of turret desync etc. The IS-3 is hardly unique in that regard.
As far as I’m aware, it’s the biggest shot trap of any tech tree tank in the game. Only the E-100, obviously not in the tech tree, has it worse.
I play German 6.7 a lot, so I face IS-3s frequently… Admittedly less so now that they’ve gone up in BR. They’re to be mindful of, but I really wouldn’t call them unstoppable by any means.
I never really tried the mantlet. The right turret cheek that I mention is the small protrusion where the commander sits.
While I don’t know the exact value, the spot I’m referring to - the “bulge” that is only on the right side of the turret - is certainly weaker than that, and it has worked for me at distance too.
The obstacle I would cite imho is the fact that it’s a very small target unless you’re up close and personal, and volumetric can really work against you.
Indeed. I’m surprised to see that’s the value, something wonky must be happening there because I’ve OHK’d through that spot with the long 88 several times. The next time it happens I’ll have to record a video of it.
cuz you can, look
but as i said isn’t that reliable bc of the mg and if hes slighly angles this weakspot dissapear
Only the German shells have enough gaijin BIASED boost to actually pen the right cheek. The USA isn’t given or has not been provided the magical & magnetic angle penetrating shells you speak of in your tiger 2.
At the moment though, Us USA players just want to survive all the way through an 11.7 br match first. Once we can achieve that with the help GAIJIN and the very little BIASED BOOST given to us. I will make sure our next achievement will be the magical GAIJIN BIASED BOOSTED anti-tank ammunition described.
original reply-
I would say it’s happened to me before but the weather conditions had to be perfect outside, I made sure to stand because I can’t be sitting down or throws off the in game- mid flight - shell gyro and on TOP OF ALL THAT- I was praying to the gaijin lords to “please let this round successfully punch a hole in this commi’s turret cheek” ,
Uncle Sam called my phone to tell me my rent was due and he wanted to be paid with COMMI TEARS!!! lol
But usually all of that still does nothing. Maybe one day we can convince GAIJIN to give us some of those BIASED BOOSTED vehicles.
88 mm APCBC uses the exact same calculator to get its flat pen as the 90 mm does. The slope performance is also shared among all APC and APCBC rounds.
88 mm APCBC has more pen simply because it has:
T41 APCBC
Pzgr.39/43
There is no “bias” in this regard.
Look mate, I’m going to tell you this as a German main: when someone complains in such melodramatic terms about how one of the Big Three suffers, there is basically no way to continue the discussion productively.
I see this behaviour in other German mains a lot, who complain in way too dramatic a fashion rather than just knuckle down, learn the vehicles, and most importantly have fun. You’re displaying the same type of attitude.
From an outside perspective, if you asked me what the US ground tree is lacking, my first thought would be “a mid tier SPAA”. And for Germany I would say “a light tank between the Puma and the LeK”. But all Big Three tech trees are incredibly strong at almost every BR. They always will be. Gaijin bases their decisions mostly around them.
When I look at what minor nations have to work with, it’s hard to ignore the conclusion that there are other priorities we need to tackle.
Tables has already provided the technical answer, I just want to give you a reality check. We’re both players in a multiplayer game. We both benefit from many trees being strong and fun to play, because even if you don’t play a vehicle yourself, you’ll play against it, which is literally part of your game experience anyway.
I don’t know what you think this tribalism and antagonism towards other people based on what they play, could possibly achieve for the T32, but if you’re really that upset about it all I can say is that thankfully WT is a video game and not real life.
Take a step back, breathe in, and have a good day. We’re here to have fun. No other reason to play a videogame.
Mate, this really doesn’t have anything to do with only the t32. This original discussion was based on arguably unbalanced BR’s. But my attitude has been a growing snowball to this point with this games devs and others.
The t32 was the front running discussion on should it be lowered or not when I showed up. Listening to people complain about an “over” armored USA tank get lowered .3 BR. Might have made me want to teleport through this phone to slap someone. Considering nearly every tank I battle against is considered over armored to USA PLAYERS and to others…lol I did not tell myself this is unfair while I was grinding- I saw it as a challenge to get GUD as some say. I never thought about the disadvantages in certain situations until recently with sep v2 brought into the picture and it began clicking.
But I need to take a break.
then this discussion on a decently armored tank with a OKAY gun getting lowered to a BR where it would still fight against tanks with- the same if not better armor and better firepower had filled my frustration limit to top lol.
Some People, I believe do not want to loose an advantage they may have in a certain BR range which could result in a more balanced experience for another nations players.
Idk though, I don’t have the answers only questions and guesses.
Oh well though. I’m out. Pce
After further evaluation, It should still be at 7.0…. Although, it takes me a min to get back into this slow game play(from 11.7)
Have you used the t32 in a while?
Since last time I used there was no BR changes in its range.
Wait… are you using apcr?
Seems like a positioning issue
Still no :)
America whines !!
T41 main and t44 when needed
I was halfway up the train tracks that cross straight through the map - can’t remember the where/name of map.
I’m been destroyed a few times from missiles.(bmp’s,marauders)
My cas(A2D) sometimes has been taken out by radar lock spaa
I’ve been pen’d through the frontal turret and hull quite a few times….
I can 1 shot lightly armored vehicles frontally and can rarely damage any decently armored tanks frontally -which is a problem when trying to capture an objective. Having time to aim for weak spot is a must.
These still have the advantage in head to head -
.Maus, IS3, is4, type 62, sometimes tiger 2 & jadpanther or whatever it’s called) lol
I have taken out plenty of tiger 2’s with turret shots. As they have also taken me out. I have yet to beat an is3 or IS4 head to head.
It’s an okay tank. Armor is decent. Cannon/shells are underpowered vs the competition. Aiming is almost always needed with the cannon as weak spots are really tiny with t41 shot.
I rank it at 7.0 so far. Could change, I’ll keep you updated
I don’t have some of these problems in the T29 or t34
