meanwhile, in GSB, I have side-climb and orbit 12-15km away from the battlefield to avoid being shot down and usually sit above 25k ft. About 8000m up, to avoid being hit and killed by a 2S6
imo the osa missile is maneuverable until 8km which is good enough. the “easily miss target at long distances” you cant expect to hit everything easily at long distances however you can fire 2 missiles at the same time which will give you a bigger probability of hit
dont expect the osa to be OP, it should be good enough. it shouldnt be perfect at everything.
Been using the the vehicle the last couple days for event with 292, and more often than not your missile will never make it to 10KM without it just exploding. I typically wait for drones to get to 8KM before firing.
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I do not consider osa that bad. The search radar has a peculiar scan patter, making it hard to spot things, and it does take long time to scan the whole zone.
I do not have problems with the locks, especially that you can change to TV at any moment.
Missiles are slow, but thanks to the long burn they can pull high g over long distances, and the display of missile position on radar helps a lot.
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Flying low and fast would be more effective, and maybe, because the 2S6 is the least capable SPAA at the specific rotation, flying high just makes you a easy target.
havent had this problem, been able to kill targets at near max distance which is like 9.5km
In that reply I was specifically talking about the 2S6 performance.
i second this one. The missile loses most of its energy at that point, but still can kill. And yes, i know it is about 2S6
then you may be somewhat right about the 2s6. i got confused there.
(however topic is still whether osa is good or bad not whether 2s6 is good or bad)
There is a video somewhere in the MANPAD thread. Stingers missing shots even with massive lead. IGLAs hitting with ease despite the shot being fired from a bad angle with no lead.
So… Still more than the ADATS. 1.0 BR higher.
Then you are just free kills for the Strela and Z-19s
No, flying high is the only tactic that works and the fact I can routinely get 6+ kills in the AMX and the 5 A-10s all get killed before they even get a shot off proves that rather well
Yeah it’s actually sad to see drones dodging your missile from 9km out.
After seeing this for a couple of times, I’ll also wait for them to reach the 8km mark.
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There’s no reason moving 2S6 up in BR, the missile and radar locking performance is a clear evidence, and, creating another useless gap, and reason to Gaijin add another SPAA no one asked.
Then move ADATS, Type 81, etc down to 10.7/11.0
Then yes, if you’re flying slow aircraft the best you can do is keep distance, also, I may be completely wrong, wasn’t considering the performance of the 2S6 at close ranges within the 30 mm cannons.
With no substitute at the moment for the ADATS it’s pretty much stuck at 11.7, for the Type 81 (C) it does performs very well at 11.3, only lacking a search radar, considering it will rarely faces 14.0 aircraft, the vehicle in general is effective and no BR change is needed.
Yup. 10KM is the max under ideal conditions, but if your target starts dancing around a bit then you’re not getting missile on target in time. I wait for around 8KM just so I’ve got some wiggle room if I need to burn energy chasing after a maneuvering target.
Anyways, I think the 2S6 is fine - it keeps A-10s and helicopters in check, puts the power in the hands of players/vehicles on the ground and prevents it turning to CAS central. Move other nations SPAA down in BR, but the last thing we want to be doing is moving SPAA up in BR. We want CAS to be hurting, not the other way around.
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Meanwhile my team 2S6, rushing in AFV style
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I used both and haven’t had Igla hitting shots Stingers would miss, they’re both equally bad against a decent pilot.
ZSU also can’t “lead” the missile, so shooting it around obstacles is not possible.
ZSU with Iglas is definitely worse than Gepard 1A2.
ADATS has 10km of range.
Usually i shoot down the jet before it launches the missile, or just hide behind the cover and it misses.