Why NATO IFVs autocannons are so BAD?

Well the chally 3 does have it and most of these arent compatible with the DM 11 to begin with, you cant really blame the game on that let a lone claim it’s introduction was biased towards the russians when they were not the ones that benefited the most

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Look how you talk about France, kid. Besides having beautiful girls, France is full of surprises. It has highly mobile MBTSs with good firepower, the Leopard 2A5/6, one of the best SPAA fighters in the game, the second-best helicopter, and the Rafale, which is head-to-head with the Su-30SM2. You must have a huge skill problem to say that.

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and THAT is the only thing in which they unjustifiably differ

Conveniently, just a little detail… mmh…

Its fire rate thats all it really is either having a high fire rate or some really good penn. I have the kf41 and freccia. The Freccia cannon despite having worse stats is much better because it has a higher fire rate which means it doesn’t matter as much when one shot does something wonky or fucks up, which happens a lot with small autocannon rounds.

they are peak when they can shot lol

Why does Russia always get the new, better techs before NATO forces ?

2s38, LMURs, BMPT, … mmh…

I don’t even know how anyone finds the 2S38 overpowered, although I think it’s a good support vehicle, good for taking on multiple enemies from the side and being a decent SPAA vehicle; anything that touches it will destroy it, and for a light vehicle it’s even quite slow.

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still isn’t near the best

Yes, because on every map that doesnt have relatively high buildings that lofting doesnt matter at all. And even on those only if the target isnt going to move to sit right behind the building, in which case with narrow roads of about one tank lenght both the lmur and the jagm will most likely miss or have their guidance interrupted at one point without being able to relock. With the problem of locking on in the first place onto a tank moving between buildings in close proximity remaining as well anyhow.

Seriously, the massive difference in efficiency of the guns on those helicopters in the muzzle velocity and accuracy of the guns on those helicopters (for defending against fixed wing threats) would have me 10 times more concerned than a difference in the lofting of the missiles (that yes, should be changed) but is completely irrelevant to the outcome in 9/10 launches. But then again. The single most dangerous threat to those ldircm helis from fixed wing threats is the brimstone missile. Remind me again which jets get those?

It is a much bigger problem regarding those helis that ldircm as well as radar tracking helis that are hovering as well as multipathing makes basically any of the new spaa systems besides the IRIS-T absolutely unreliable to shoot them down. Some are efficient to counter their ordinance but yeah, 16 JAGMS that you can reload on a experted AH64e in 10 seconds say hello

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So they’re bad, right… are they effective when used by NATO ground forces, on the ground against other MBTs ?

They literally don’t. The Begleit was added years before the 2S38, and the other two are more niche to Russia.

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Probably because it has an autocannon that can basically one shot barrels and tracks, creates huge smoke effects when it hits effectively blinding your opponent, and has enough penn to punch through a lot of armored spots that most autocannons can’t especially at 10.0, not to mention the vt round is nice.

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Killing low flying CAS with your main cannon as a MBT… sounds pretty nice to me…

France is one of the most competitive nations in the game; if you can’t perform at a mediocre level with them, that’s your problem. You have an MBT that, despite not having much armor, offers mobility and firepower, and good urban combat or sniper. You have one of the best SPAA units, and with the Rafale, you can clear enemy CAS from the sky and still hit the enemy team hard with AASM or whatever that thing is called. Besides, the EBRC Jaguar seems like a very good vehicle to use with the OP MSC.

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Literally its only advantage; without that cannon it would be a useless vehicle, since it doesn’t even have missiles.

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So there is also the difference in efficiency of the guns on those helicopters in the muzzle velocity and accuracy of the guns… another bias… mmh…

Interesting

So there are at least 2 techs that only Russia has… “niche” as you call them…

Surely we can find more of those within Russia… interesting…

Conveniently…

If you really didnt already know that you should really play the stuff first that you are planning to complain about. otherwise you might end up finding problems in things that actually arent such a problem while completely disregarding the actual problems. And that could be seen as being a bit uninformed about the actual matter itself. Theres people here that go a bit crazy if they get the feeling they sniffed out something like that. I think this forum is a place for everyone to discuss, but its always nice to have sufficient information beforehand or just ask around before starting polarizing rants or jumping on something like the “Kingtiger is worst tank in the game” bandwagon

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Who told you I didn’t know that already lol… it was /s

Is it another russian bias, yes or no ?