Why NATO IFVs autocannons are so BAD?

They have a slow firerate, cannot pen anything, overheat fast and are singular (no main cannon firing ATGMs like the BMD-4s for example). Because of their slow firerate, they cannot easily destroy low flying CAS either. Coupled with the fact that these IFVs sometimes do not even have ATGMs launchers or have useless spikes missiles instead, is sad.

Compared to them, russian and chinese IFVs look like the perfect killing machines : good pen, low overheating, high firerate, double-barreled for some of them, … they’re the nightmare of both ground and air vehicles. Some even have 4 ATGMs launchers, they can track slow CAS easily, …

Is it documented, NATO IFVs (autocannons) are so bad ?

EDIT : in several cases, NATO IFVs also have wheels, very, very slow off-road for some reason ??

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Yes, at Gaijins headquarters.

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cv9040s are peak

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What even are those

Go ask some armies to increase it.

They usually have better penetration than RU autocannons.

2A42 overheats faster i’m pretty sure.

Unfortunate doctrine for the hit video game WarThunder.

What could be done to help them is lowering them in BR and increase autocannon damage, as its extremely abysmal across the board.

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NATO cannons are usually better IRL because the lower fire rate leads to more accuracy and more reliability. (I assume you’ve seen BMPT cannon accuracy before, and it’s not good).

Gaijin doesn’t simulate reliability, so the trade offs just lead to a worse gun, and not a better one.

As for wheeled tanks, gaijin just ruins their traction on most maps. I’ve overtaken a Ratel 20 in a Tiger II H before, and the problem is very much mot unique to nato. China has several wheeled tanks that are severely harmed when off road.

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“Increase autocannon damage”, so even if some pen more than RU counterparts, they can’t pen anything anyway, right ?

“Russian bias doesn’t exist” I’m guessing ?

Comparison between a plethora of autocannons. 2A42 (BMP-2M, BMP-2, BMPT’s) heats up the fastest at around 8s.
PUMA’s 30mm: ~17s
BMD-4’s 30mm: ~18s
CV9035’s 35mm: ~13s
Bradley’s 25mm: ~15s

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Why russians and NATO autocannons seem to have the exact same accuracy though ? Aren’t russian autocannons supposed to be less accurate ?

Russia doesn’t seem to have problems with wheels, they don’t have any (except the BTR), convenientely enough.

They are all modelled the exact same way i’m pretty sure. I’ll post the screenshot if I can find it, but in the files the 2AXX and Bushmaster have the exact same accuracy, so not wrong. As to why? I don’t know.

If you’ve used the BTR you’d know that it is slow asf, and absolutely horrible to drive. But since you haven’t used it, you wouldn’t know.

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How many rounds are shot in the BMD-4s VS NATO counterparts ?

What is the % of overheating per round for each IFV ?

I might already know the answer…

I couldnt be asked to calculate that, but its most likely linked to RoF, which is pretty arcadey, and it makes sense.

play SOMETHING OTHER THAN FRANCE!

CV90s are GOATED!

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As to why? I don’t know.

I know why, but it’s forbidden to say it here.

But since you haven’t used it, you wouldn’t know.

You’re right, I play multiple BRs beside 9.0 and 7.3 in my WT experience.

PUMA IFV which has been designed to go WITH MBTs, wheel to wheel. It has very good protection even against 125mm apfsds rounds (but non is in the game for some reason).

Muss irl is working very well irl (doesn’t work at all in game)

Autocannon is the most accurate in the world - trials in 2017 in Czech republic proved that (in game it’s trash)

AHEAD rounds are an ultimate weapon vs air targets (sucks in game)

Clara ERA irl is Era/Nera combination which provides full protection against 35mm apfsds and vs tandem warhead missiles/RPGs
(Useless in game)

Dozens of bug reports has been ignored by Gaijin.

Meanwhile 2S38 is a favorite child xd

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I think russian IFVs fire more rounds than NATO ones per % of overheating, thus giving them more chance to pen and kill before overheating, compared to NATO IFVs.

How convenient…

I don’t think this is a worthy argument for the mythical bussian rias. For a good year, XM800T had around 6 plates that did not produce spall at all, like literally none. Nobody complained about it. US bias!

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im curious, do you think all nations are like france? you have only played france and you say NATO! why? france is known to be in top worst nations.

That trashcan? Really?

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This is the number one problem with WT’s community. They play only one nation and complain about stuff they have never tried.

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