Why M1A2 SEP V2 Don't Have Trophy System And LWS in game

Well as per ADA339744 they got most of the way to a production variant, though the resultant “M6 Launcher” was not yet planned to be automated at the time the report was written(1997). But the automatic deployment mode had been demonstrated.

Who knows exactly what has happened in the intervening time, but steps have been taken towards automatic deployment upon detecting a threat in some way.

they are talking about iron fist and similar
not self deploying smoke launchers, no vehicle in the game has that feature even if multiple would have

their was the offical statement by gajin that they dont wanna do self deploying smokes since that would hurt the playerbase more most of the time etc etc

Tell one good thing it added to the miserable Top Tier Abrams while having a huge weakspot more than the base M1.

T-72B3 is in a similar position, it doesn’t have its Arena-M, likely to come as a separate vehicle along with the T-90M with Arena-M.

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No the SEPv2 was a terrible addition. All it should have been was an armor upgrade package on the SEP which is all it is. The fact that when Gaijin marketed it’s addition 1 of the bullet points was the addition of crows in a game like WT is an absolute joke in itself.

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It added an easier to hit HE trap on the roof.

I still find it incredibly annoying how the most major thing that the SEPv2 could have in game that would make it better than the SEP wasn’t even added. It’s just a heavier, slower SEP.

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The ability to remove the the TUSK would have atleast made it a sidegrade. As of right now the SEPv2 is a downgrade to the SEP.

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Somehow Alvis didn’t reply because he himself doesn’t even know what’s the good thing about it, literally the worst thing that got added in the US Tech Tree.

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complaining about nato stuff while he calls KA 50 and pantsir bad etc lol

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I wouldn’t call him a bot persay just someone who likes to go against the grain which I don’t have a problem with. Hell I have found myself agreeing with him on certain things. That being said he does a have habit of trying to make hot takes to be contradive in topics that he could have just ignored for some reason.

When they eventually add the v3 hopefully next update. They better folder the v2 into the SEP.

It’s literally the same exact weakspot as SEP1 and M1A2.
It’s another spawn at top BR, 2 instead of 1.

@Thenighthunter
Well, you’re more than able to go play arcadey games instead if you’re going to worry about what DCS, War Thunder, etc do.

@dotSHINI
When has me defending NATO vehicles been complaining?
When has me saying the Ka-50 is good ever been me saying otherwise?
When has me saying Pantsir is good against GBU slingers and helicopters been saying it’s bad?

You have to be talking about yourself cause I’ve never done any of the things you’ve falsely claimed.

@Kenny110 calling all NATO defenders “bots”…
Keep complaining about NATO stuff, Kenny.
I’ll keep defending NATO from those that constantly complain without reason.

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whert?

It’s a critique on your post over-thinking War Thunder.
If playing simulators causes you to over-think, and the over-thinking is causing you stress…
All you can really do is stop being stressed or remove the stressor.

SEP2 is variety, that’s what it is; that’s all it needed to be.
Just like 2A6 vs 2A5. 2A6 is an extra spawn despite being identical to 2A5 in playstyle/gameplay.
Strv 122A vs 122B.
T-80U vs T-80UK.
Type 99 prototype [WZ10 something] vs Type 99A.
All variety, all a 2nd spawn.

If SEP2 was actually better and warranted a new BR, then that would no longer be a 2nd spawn now would it?

M829A3 making it up to 12.7?
Trophy potentially increasing its survivability against F&F CAS munitions when making mistakes? 12.3 maybe with its armor profile.

Yeah, the weakest tanks have APS: Merkava Mk4 and Challenger 2. Not T-series, Abrams, or Leopard 2 at this time.

USA needed another spawn, and it got one.

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And VT-4

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I don’t see how critiquing Gaijin for adding the v2 rather then making it an upgrade option (something they have done before) is over thinking but ok.

What variety? A heavier sep with an larger target for mango?

Really terrible example the A6 has a longer barrel adding about 20-30mm extra pen.
The SEP added what a remote control turret? All turrets are remote controls in WT. Extra ERA? Doesn’t benefit anything really most ordnance being used at that tier is kinetic and the non-kinetic was mostly already negated by the single layer ERA. V2 is a Heavier SEP with more shot traps.

Would like some clarification on which 122b you are referring too.

If the v2 was a squadron vehicle that would be more logical then adding it as another 400k rp in the US tree.

It did not as of right now you can get the same result arguably better result by taking 1 of the 11.7 abrams in your lineup vs the v2. Oh it’s another gen2 thermal abrams while nicer than gen1 saying it is a game changer to the gen1 on the a2 isn’t a crazy change most tanks at that br are gen3. Hell 122bplss has gen 3 commander and is still the same br as the gen2. So i don’t see gen2 thermals as warranting a .3 BR change.

SEP2 has the same exact APFSDS weakspots as M1A2, and less weak spots for HE and HEAT.
Also your assumption that ATGMs don’t exist at 12.0 is a bad assumption.

Also claiming that USA doesn’t need a 2nd spawn indicates you’re a one death leaver in all matches… I hope you retract your argument.

You must be trolling. The CROWS and armor on the roof are mango traps.

The second layer of ARAT provides no real value than the ARAT on the SEP.

Also while I’m at it lets look at another statement you made.

If this would raise the BR like you said why did the a7 with spall liners not increase the BR?

@Thenighthunter
The Leopard 2A7V did go up in BR, then spall liners were nerfed even more than they were nerfed on dev server, and the survivability bonus was entirely nullified against semi-competent shots.
Not only do spall liners only work once, but they don’t reduce spalling like day one of major update.

I haven’t two shot a 2A7V in a long time.
One shot has been enough.

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