Ya playing 13.0 is much better than 12.0, teams actually stick around a lot longer, playing 12.0 its not uncommon for a team to lose half its players in 3 minutes.
12.0 can also see cancer CAS, 11.7 at least cant.
US mains would cry their eyes out saying the F-15E/F-16C are useless. Jokes aside, they should be 13.0 no questions asked. While they aren’t equals to the 13.0’s, they are definitely not 12.7 worthy. The F-16C can stay, but the F-15E/I should go up.
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I don’t play top tier US, mostly ISR, but given we’re practically MM locked together, I experience this same thing most games when I check the scoreboard.
I would absolutely love F-15I getting bumped up to 13.0 to let me flee this lmao.
Such a shame too. Actual top tier US players (in the tech tree) tend to be rock solid guys who go deep into their lineups, but man… the wallet tank brigade at 11.7 break my will.
Remove Pantsir from the game and you can transfer F-15E to 13.0. And while Russia has Pantsir and the US does not, then there is a clear imbalance. Just do not talk about how easy it is to play against Pantsir.
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For some reason when I play for the USA on 13.0 my win rate is 0. Because it is impossible to play against Su-34 and Su-30, and when I play on 11.7 there are long battles and out of 10 battles 6 wins. This can be easily verified. I can now play for the USA on 12.7 against 13.0 and out of 10 battles there will be about 8 losses.
Another option is to simply take the X-38MT from them.
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I am curious, when you play US in 12.0-13.0 matches, do you notice you have non US team mates making up a greater % of the team composition?
I feel like AIM/Clickbaits make up a huge % of the teams in 11.7-12.7 matches, so I’m wondering how populated US actually is in the 12.0-13.0 where those guys aren’t included.
Before
And after
The wave of one resp “Clickbaits” has long passed. By the way, the USSR has T-72TURMS and T-80UE-1, maybe they should also raise the entire 11.7 branch to 13.0? I’m sure they’ll be more comfortable there.
Rafales and eurofighters are 13.0 though.
The pantsir isn’t as good as you think. Something was changed about it, I can’t remember what or when, but its suprisingly easy to kill
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if it knows what it is doing it can still kill your entire volley of mavs with only clicking a few buttons
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true, but the Pantsir still isn’t a reason for the F-15E not to be at 13.0.
15E/15I at 13.0 definitely. As for the 16C, I don’t personally think it should be moved from its current BR of 12.7. Sure it’s a strong aircraft for CAP and decent at CAS, and definitely stronger than maybe something like a Gripen for CAS roles, but its nowhere near the 13.0 CAS standard.
I mean it kinda is, its the most dangerous AA in the game and f15e fights it like every match
the biggest impact though is compared to EFT or ralph f15e has much worse turning performance, so even like 10km out it can be hard to dodge pantsir missiles, which forces you to fire your mavs and other weapons from much further away than other CAS options making the poor performance of those weapons more evident
im on the fence about if it should be 13.0 because of that
of the 13.0 aircraft all but one are significantly better at CAS and arguably better at CAP and that one is much better at CAP and has agility to make its laser guided missiles somewhat competitive for CAS
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The F-15E does have worse turn performance, but its got a heavier and more consistent CAS loadout than anything not russian. It’s CAS loadout is very strong, and I agree (I have the 15i) its flight performance is definitely subpar and nowhere near the other current 13.0 jets in air RB. However, the sheer amount of different types of bombs AGMs and pretty much anything in between makes me think that it should sit at 13.0
I mean options of bombs doesnt make it that good, especially given that none of its weapons are particularly competitive
if it got GPS+laser guided bombs without limited drop speed I would definitely say it should be 13.0 but you get 6 mavs which are not particularly good at that br, and then you get a choice of SDB to try give your mavs a chance to not be intercepted or gbu 12 to try and get a kill or two with them, neither of which are particularly effective because trying to use the gbu makes you extremely vulnerable because you need to lase for the entire flight time of the bomb while the sdb travels very slowly and has a tiny warhead so it is only effective as a distraction for AA
Again true, and paired with definitely not superb flight performance characteristics I understand why you may think that it’s annoying, especially how pretty much the only thing the F-15E has going for it’s protection is speed (which is nullified by bomb release speed), it may not be the best jet to play. However moving it to 13.0 wouldn’t stop it from seeing pantsirs, you still see plenty of those at 12.7. My opinion is that it’s cas loadout is extensive and more than superior to every current 12.7 and so there is really no reason to keep it there.
Pantsir is very good. It is the best SAM in the game, it can intercept all your missiles and destroy you at a distance of 18 km.
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I’ve had no issues dealing with them recently, hell when I spawn in the JAS39C I am often able to gun them down. They are definitely the best SPAA, but far from invincible
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