Luchs isn’t even a 6.0 vehicle idk how it’s still 7.3
its because its not french.
and its (as far as gameplay goes) yet another gepard that will end up as a OP tank hunter instead of being used as an SPAA (which it will also be OP at)
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The largest gap is britains 5.3-8.3 gap from the bosvark until falcon. a lot of the really big gaps have started to get filled slowly. Germany is not high in the priority list for nations that need more SPAA
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Pretty sure almost every tree has a thicc 1.0 or higher gap in the AA lines.
- USA: Stink(5.3) → VADS(7.3)
- Germany: Kugel(6.7) → Gepard(8.3) if I’m not mistaken
- USSR: BTR ZTPU-4(4.0) → BTR-ZD(6.3)
- Britain: Stink → Falcon(8.3)
- tbh not sure on anything until Sweden
- Sweden: USH204 → VEAK40
- do I need to explain Israel?
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Cool? Who brought up the Brit’s?
Or are you agreeing that maybe the French should cool it? The point is that the French are angry because they need a gap “filler” but they are getting that and other nations who have a similar gap(or in some cases, larger one) it’s just weird that they are getting a copy paste German vehicle and they are more angry then German mains.
I’m Just not sure what you are talking about?
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I get the flak for yet another gepard style vehicle being added but they need to chill when there are nations with far worse SPAA issues. Britain was just an example as it has the largest gap between SPAAs thats not been plugged to some degree.
Its copy paste in gameplay nature sure, not quite a 1:1 c&p in fairness (im not defending it, i dont think it should have been added as gepards are a major problem for the games health)
Not really. A 7.0 SPAA would have been a gap filler. This thing does pretty much nothing because it only fills the gap for 1 single BR step
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I’d say there isn’t much of a gap since the AMX-10P performs the role much as the kugel does at 7.0.
First of all the AMX-10P is an IFV, second of all it’s 6.3 and really not that good of an SPAA. If the TPK was not a truck I’d run that (it’s 5x better at shooting down planes) but the 10P is not at all suited for 7.0 not to mention 7.7 and 8.0 where the biggest lineups are.
Practically speaking the gap spans from 5.7 to 8.7 (8.3 after the update drops) which still leaves the biggest 2 lineups without a usable SPAA and the 7.0 lineup with a barely usable 10P
It’s got great vertical movement speed and solid horizontal. It’s small and fast and has a aux MG.
It serves the function of a SPAA fine.
For an SPAA it really does not especially not at 7.0 and above. The elevation angles also are not the best. It’s just not a good SPAA since it clearly was not intended to be IRL
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“Sure the gap has been made smaller and it supports a lineup that lacked an AA, so what?”
Sure it doesn’t fix the gap completely, but why are we complaining about this?
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Shrimple they are french and complain constantly over every addition.
Because it does nothing. The same or even less amount of work could have gone towards adding a vehicle that would actually fill the gap by sitting at 7.7 or similar
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But you admitted it helped a lineup and shortened the gap a little? I agree it isn’t the best choice to fill the AA Gap but that doesn’t mean we should shame and cry about every new addition. It adds more BeNeLux representation, it closes the gap a little and helps out of a lineup. Why are we throwing a fit about that? You could argue every new addition isn’t perfect but that’d just be a pool of tears because it isn’t exactly what you want.
The main issue is that it does nothing to address the problem at large. It’s gonna play like a gepard further diluting the french tree while not really doing anything to help the lineup issues. 8.7 already has an spaa 8.3 literally only has 2 vehicles and is barely even a lineup. Sure It helps a bit I just mainly complain because it’s been so long and something better could have been added instead. I am not entirely against it I just want the real issue to be addressed first
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I mean, reminder that this is all stemming from a community update, we have like 2-3 updates until 2027 and all we know is like 4 vehicles. I don’t see the point in complaining so much, so early, about this- especially when its something that actually addresses the gap (even in a small way) and other requests from the community (namely more BeNeLux representation).
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Have you not seen the track record for france the past couple years? They will just add dutch and belgian copy paste and call it a day. At least this SPAA is kinda slightly different from the gepard
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It helped a lineup that should have been filled with the amx30 when it lost apds, since it lacks a stab and its radar might as well not exist
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What’s asked is something to go fill the gap, adding the PRTL at 8.3 is not filling the gap (while yes it should be added, I think the dev should look into filling the gap)