Why is warthunder excessively toxic as of late?

Have you experienced any of the following in a massive amount in WarThuder as of late?

Toxic play styles
  • Corner camping
  • Spawn camping
  • Revenge bomb (after one kill on the enemy, despite your tank)
  • Toxic chat messages
  • Unsportsmanlike behavior
  • Plane spam
  • (Other, list it)
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Continued
  • Intentional crashing / J’ing out?
  • Excessive Turret wiggling to avoid being barreled / killed
  • Teamkiller (either being pushed, or straight up bombed)
  • Team pushers (people who feel entitled to a kill whom ram you after you kill someone)
  • Team mates whom “sacrifice” you for a kill?
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And what would you do to curb it?
Do you experience it more during events or not?
Does the volume of cheaters and toxic behavior spike during events?

“Other” - Crashing to prevent kills has never been more prominent. (“Maneuver Kill” feature when gaijin? Solves this and gives us credit for actual maneuver kills.)

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‘as of late’? XD

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I forgot to add the mass spam of TURRET WIGGLING

L.

BOTH types of spawn camping, the “drive straight into the enemy spawn” and the “fly around your airfield to hide in the SPAA bubble” type.

To be fair that is just trying not to die, that’s like saying planes shouldn’t go “guns D” when you get on their tail.

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Dude if you screw up your shot in a tank, and continue to wiggle your turret (not turn it to its strongest armor)
I mean back and forth rapidly, that is just dishonorable.

hot take i dont think revenge bombing is especially toxic, just a result of you normally being the easiest person for the person you just killed to find because of kill cams

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As other I would say teamates intentionally raming you or teamkilling you, tk was common at take off in air rb, in ground i usually get tk when first spawn rocket heli by another heli.

I suposse this also considers crashing or J out to avoid getting killed

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Yeah it’s annoying (and do be clear I don’t do it), but as long as it’s actually within the traverse drives ability to do I don’t really see it as too toxic. Like I said I kindda look at it like forcing an overshoot in air than expecting them to not go defensive (like those cancer snap rolls and course changes) It needs to be kept within the vehicles actual limitations, but people exploiting over performance in those regards is an issue I have with Gaijin, not the actual players, but that’s just my opinion.

It’s also usually a result of the person being bombed not moving from their camping spot after a few kills, unless you are in a Maus or Tortoise or something of the like, you should have time to relocate.

Corner camping, plane spam and revenge bombing shouldn’t even be in the list. Sounds like some projection. Sounds like the list of someone who doesn’t play enough autocannon spammers. Or maybe it’s why I love playing them. Kill a tank in an auocannon spammer and then you get to shoot down the subsequent plane spam and attempted revenge bomber.

Why that?

Irl you’d likely break the turret drive slamming it from side to side.

It’s extremely common by USA players, I have clip after clip as of late all of people doing it.

New players coming in at top tier, blatantly over powered under brd premiums.

Small maps, poor no terrible map design and map versions. Especially maps that do not allow flanking.

Premium top tier aircraft, ridiculously low SP to spawn a fully loaded Jet or Helicopter

Camping amd 3rd person peeking has always been an issue, you could add sound design to the list (how as a TC am I hearing another tank while driving and operating my own?)

Content creators and the addition of the nuke.
They all end up spawn camping, new players see and echo this playstyle

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And why is that dishonorable? I can also drive over cliffs without breaking the tank (other than in real life).

Entire team fighting over 3 bases in high tier jets battles.

Well… with all due respect, but when i’m flying my Q-5A e.g. (which has no AAM, a few flares, terrible guns and not enough bombs to get 1 base) and a Russian Mig with all aspects missiles or 35g Rear IR missiles attacks me due to me being an easy target, i pop a few flares, wait for him to fire another one, and then proceed myself into the ground.

I’m not giving such an awfull premium player a kill because Gaijin ruins the br placements of these vehicles.

you actually could have killed the mig no problem, q-5 has great flight performance

i despise you

And interestingly, everything you mention are problems created by the devs, and which would have an easy solution, but of course, there are already many people who make a living from this, and they are not willing to change the way they play.

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exactly, all of those exist purely because of devs lack of game design prowess

i mean… they literally think spawncamping is fine and is not toxic at all

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I find it very sad that when players asked for good things, the devs ignored us. Those players got tired of it and left the game. And now, after 8 years, when players are asking for quick matches and CQC as if this were Counter-Strike, the devs are finally listening and destroying the game by pursuing that same absurd gameplay. Besides, they’re ridding it with imbalances like planes appearing two minutes into a match, absurd bounces and damage to save players who make mistakes and kill those who played well, maps where once you’re killed, the best thing to do is ODL because the other option is just giving kills to the enemy, etc.

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