Why is the Tortoise so unloved by the devs?

True, it’s rare to one hit kill in a British tank. Usually you aim at turret, kill the gunner. Then the driver, then 1 or 2 more shells into the turret for the remaining crew… Tanks like the Conqueror with its painful reload time rarely get kills as I’ll hit the target but half the time they will repair and reverse out of danger before I can get second shot in.

British tanks are great for assistance rewards though. I average 3 kills and 5 assists.

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The fox has nearly double the pen, fire rate hardly matters when it can simply pen a larger variety of tanks

Congratulations on getting dominated by a mini lancer?

The F-15E has the same play style as the F-4s in their prime: fly into the stratosphere, spam missiles, land. If you’re competent, you cannot die, while you rack up kills.

If youre competent you can just evade it’s missile and send a couple it’s way when it’s turning back around

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Remember, French tanks are so bad, Gaijin had to invent a medal based around Kill Assists to compensate for how terrible solid shot is in the game.

Yes, because it’s so easy to fire at someone going Mach 2 the opposite direction from your plane, well above 10,000m high, and well over 15km away. That’s why I said a competent F-15E player should be invincible. They have all the power. Thankfully most American mains are bad and will try to dogfight you, then run to the forums saying the F-15E needs to be at a lower BR (yep, that’s happened) and needs buffs (also happened), stronger engines (also there), AIM 120s needs buffs (a few posts about it), needs AIM 9Xs to be viable (pretty sure I’ve seen it on here, otherwise I’ve seen it on Facebook).

F-15E will not be mach 2 as he’s turning back to base and will be in the most vulnerable spot there if you can get close.

The AIM-120 should get buffs though. MICA and Rafale are the real problem not a miniature B-1B

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Well now with the air spawns (which no one asked for), it’s pretty easy to get away with spamming, dropping down with air breaks enabled, and land within a minute.

I also had the displeasure of 1v1 BVR fighting some loser in his F-15E. So I have some irritation with that plane. There was no skill, just hiding with unlimited fuel and ammo. I did end up winning, just irritated me that he could of won because he was playing hide and seek in Heaven.

myself and @l2ulan worked on a bug report on the armour several months ago using a tortoise casting which had the thicknesses chalked onto it as evidence, unlikely we will see it fixed ever… the ball as per usual is in their court

outside of rare exceptions you arent penning anything XM800T cant, the ROF and stabiliser are far superior to a slow firing unstable gun

Soviet pattern MBT’s with 80mm side armor?

meh i shoot them in the back of the head, sovet execution style. APDS isn’t reliable unless perpendicular to the target and I can afford more shell shatters from behind

There isn’t 80mm equivalent armor there?

Unless you get lucky it’s much harder to get a rear turret shot than a side hull shot

Nah both y’all are rage baiting at this point lmao 🤣. No way the fox goes down and stayed the way it was. Besides, you can complain less at 8.0 about “non penning” targets as most targets have less armor ant that BR range). And no way is the Tortoise “good” or the line-up for it at 6.7. Japan has a much better 6.7 line-up.

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“80mm” maybe, and the RNG of spall that low down isn’t a very sure bot other than to knock out a fuel tank and driver.

back of the turret guarantees killing turret and breech. best spot to shoot overall no matter your calibre

one of the biggest skill issues of the whole playerbase if you think that. it should stay at 7.7 and not be at 8.0 however.

there’s argument for the scimitar to be 6.7 due to how gaijin screwed it over leaving myself to bug report it to hell and back to try and make it at least usable.

Brit main to another, no nation deserves an OP vehicle, but fair and balanced ones only.

6.7 is cracked for Britain, mk2 cent and 7.3 worthy ratel 20 make it easy pickings against german mains.

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For XM800T?

xm800 less so, it should go through like rarden on most things the sheer volume of shot will overpower the wonkyness of russian damage models. spray out the back of the turret and transmission and you’ve got him just like a RARDEN has, faster than a rarden too with that ROF and stabiliser

back to topic.

A39 tortoise

not FV721 or XM800T

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