Dunno bro the stormer is not that bad. Especially in gsb it is a monster
The Stormer has a very small niche where its incredibly powerful, but the second you step outside of killing helis that sit within 7km its by far the worst 10.3 SAM system in the game. Doesnt help that the radar acq box is tilted up by 15 degrees for some reason.
It should be considerably more capable than it is right now, which would make it a lot more usable outside of that specific niche.
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I disagree. I find it extremely useful against basically anything that enters 8km.
Suffers against clouds but thats just every IR spaa.
For example i have a 1.6kd in grb and a 1.8 kd in gsb for the HVM.
That´s not that great but for an spaa that’s supposed to be “so bad” its really not bad.
Mind you the KD is sb is just so low cuz there arnt more jets/helis spawning
*anything that flies perfectly straight and level between 2-8km. Honestly even the Rapier would be better than the Stormer if the missile actually did damage.
Thats just a skill issue.
If you cant guide a 47G missile even with no proxy thats just a you issue
In Sim its probably slightly more powerful because the plane/ heli cant see the incoming tracer as quite easily as you can in rb.
But that doesnt change anything about the limited range, kinematics, the phasing through targets, the 30mm of pen, or the issues with locking targets even without cloud cover and its still pretty bad compared to radar guided SAMs, especially since every SAM gets the radar screen except the Stormer.
my guy. It is 10.3 The only AA with more range is the OSA.
?? since when does pen matter for an AA?
The only thing i get from this, is that you cant manage to guide it properly and so you just say it is “bad”
If you aren’t going to talk about how the thing actually performs and just label anyone that says its underperforming as bad then you clearly don’t have much of an argument…
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I dont say it is not underperforming. I am just saying that it is not “so bad” as the creator says
Relatively, it definitely is ‘so bad’. When every other 10.3 spaa is better and 9.7 SPAAs are just as good in most scenarios I think that’s a fair thing to say.
The Stormer is notoriously ping/packet-loss dependant lmao. Having more than 50-70 ping can make it extremely unreliable against fast moving targets.
Yes, he’s being unnecessarily rude. Stormer is also quite dependent on a good network connection, on top of all the issues already mentioned here. The feeling is that it’s just not worth the headache to play with something so mediocre, which is why I usually go for Strela or Osa instead.
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Well i have 20ms :OMEGALUL:
ye sorry i am kinda tiered, i didnt mean i :aware:
I don’t think there’s another missile AA system in the game that gets as many “Hit” s as the stormer does, apart from the Rapier.
That combined with how aircraft have to fly a specific way in order for you to hit them, and you have a very limited time window to actually hit them too, because once they are too close, you cant hit them at all; its just not going good at all.
Because of the tracers, you can see the missiles from miles away too, making them easier to dodge. Flying close to the battle and along the horizontal plane of the stormer also makes you incredibly hard to hit, because the missiles if you are too close, just cant keep up. The speed combined with the hard requirement to hit a target directly is what makes it hard to use, and often makes it underperform; most of the drawbacks of the stormer currently are fixed with other AA systems by them having proxy det warheads. catching aircraft going horizontally is easier when your missile just detonates near them.
edit: with the stormer you have to fight the netcode while tracking a vehicle traveling horizontally faster than your missile can usually track, all the while not knowing if you have missed it or are still on target, while still having to get a pinpoint accurate shot. meanwhile the OSA just fires, tracks, and it does the job by proxy det.
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Ive got a 1.3kd in gbr with Stormer over 800 games, so its not a skill issue, and thats with dragging the stormer up into top tier so against jets it has literally no ability to counter, just to eat Helis.
my guy. It is 10.3 The only AA with more range is the OSA.
at br 10.0 the Roland 3 gets 8km, Osa br 10.3 10.3Km, Asrad R 10.3b with Bolide 9km, 2s6 10.7 gets 10km.
All with proxy fuses which neutralises packetloss/ ping issues and large explosive warheads to overpressure light vehicles.
?? since when does pen matter for an AA?
You say I have a skill issue when you dont even recognise the Stormers ability to eat bmps and wheeled TDs at its br? the 30mm of pen is a limitation that shouldnt be there, simple as that. I want the ~90mm of pen the starstreak should most likely have.
OSA is my go to mostly cause the funny 10.5KM range, you can really bully the SU-25s as they spawn in, and dome the A-10s before they blow their AGM-65 load (with a prefire). Otherwise my go to is the AD, it’s range limited, but I find when the missiles actually lock they’re extremely solid.
Stormer is good, but it is a bit long in the tooth now.
Being smallish is nice
And doming 2S38s and BMPs is nice.
Does no damage to tanks espcecially Russian
Smoke grenades are great.
Great optics/good makeshift scout.
Fast missile
8 ready to go missiles
Now AA mode it’s for dealing with Helis unfortunately Helis now have 15km missiles.
Making Stormer a difficult include at top tier.
Isn’t impacted by DIRCM
Inconsistent damage model sometimes you saw a wing off othertimes you get a “hit”
IRST system obstructed by clouds (that are rendered server side) although the sky looks perfectly clear
Cannot kill recon drones
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idk if they changed it but a while back you could kill t72s frontally over the optics