After doing a bit of maths (volume of a cylinder, density of pbx-98 etc), I’ve reached the conclusion that 400g per dart is too high, it would never fit.
However, 49g also feels (very technical I know) too low. I’d estimate 100-150g is more likely but it’s effectively impossible to prove.
If I had access to the uxo database it would be easier but I’m not signing up for that 😂
If I’m wrong I admit it, and it seems this is one of those times.
Are we sure its 400g of explosives, or 400g warhead weight?
“As the second stage motor burns out, the dart release mechanism operates the three darts coast to the target. Each dart contains a delayed initiation 0.9 kg blast fragmentation warhead for maximum target effects.”
Thats a 900g warhead per dart and a delayed fuse.
Each dart is 900g on total. The darts contain the front section, magnetic bearings and a clutch assembly (the front is slowed using the clutch to turn the dart).
You also have laser receivers in the tail section as well as the guidance electronics and, I assume, some sort of thermal battery.
100-150g of explosive feels about right, 49 too low and 400 too high.
Looking at the footage of the Starstreak taking the tail off a mi-something, it looks a lot more than 49g so I’d be leaning more towards 150g.
Yeah so what we gonna do about it? Cause they aint reading or listening to this💀
It was 400g of explosive mass, not warheid weight
Honestly? Nothing we can do.
There is sod all actual data about it so it’s mostly guesswork and the limitations of physics.
With the lack of a primary source for it, trying to get it corrected is just yelling into the void.
If someone feels like signing up for this, there may be more data
I don’t fancy ending up on a list though.
yes but the devs take russian brochures for info and they buff russian tanks why cant they take into account the data we have or at least make it realistic with simple calculations?
Its £5 i dont mind but how do we prove the information it will provide is not classified?
You probably can’t, but it’s a site for people who defuse explosives for a living (absolute mad lads). I can’t imagine it would be legally encumbered but you never know.
I dont care about legal lmao, more care about getting in trouble on forums. Cause if they suspect it and i cant prove it im cooked.
🤷♂️
It’s been that way for a long time and can be a significant source of friction between gaijin and the community.
Honestly, I’ve given up on them approaching these things in a fair and balanced manor.
I also just remembered about the stormer iff. Does it have it on the dev server yet?
Iff???
IFF
Identify friend or foe
The stormer in game currently doesn’t have it, despite the presence of antennas for it and images of “IFF interrogate” on the display when it’s in combat.
Oh yh i was thinking that earlier aswell, i believe it also has a missile approach warning system aswell like the VERDI-2 Warrior IFV/SPAA
I have the aftermath photos of that helicopter, and i have tons of videos of the stormer inside and out taking down aircraft if u want me to DM you any.
The Stormer in game doesn’t have modelled, the antennas are the black plates above the launch tubes when mounted.
Ok, so if we base it on this image (and revising my very rough calculations I posted in the other thread), and the published dimensions of 396mm length and 22mm diameter of the dart, the warhead section seems to be about 20cm long.
Let’s be generous and say the walls are only 1mm (I’d guess more for fragmentation effect), so the cylinder of explosives would be 20cm long (height h) and have a diameter of 2cm, so a radius r of 1cm.
So as we know a cylinders volume V = π·r²·h, here that would be 62.8 cm³.
And if the used explosive is indeed Composite B, which has a density of 1.7 g/cm³, we’re at a explosives mass of 106.8g.
But as I said, wall thickness (fragmentation mantle) of only 1mm seems quite thin, and I don’t know how the core looks (fuse?).
So I’d also think it would be correct with around 100g per dart - so maybe the stats are not per dart but for all 3 of them combined?
